Global re-selling mapart issue

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  1. lilCupcakeFreak
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    Make re-selling maparts a bannable offence.
    If you can proof the mapart is yours (by some sort of signature on it), make it so that people who re-sell them can get punished.
    It happends way to often, and its a very low thing to do, and for people to be able to just get away with it is in my opinion not ok.
     
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    I Agree, Mapartists put work into them, and should plainly not be able to be copied.
     
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    I believe it is punishable but you might have to ask about that one
     
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    I also agree, it's not fair for someone to profit off of someone else's hard work, it also just aggravates the entire server.
     
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    It’s Not punishable , check rules lmfao
     
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  6. lilCupcakeFreak
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    it isnt, not officially anyway. its just rude to do
     
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    This didn't age well.

    Big support. Theft is wrong in any sense.
     
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    not yet xoxo
     
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    You need hard written rules to tell you how to be a reasonable person?
    I would say reselling mapart when the owner has explicitly expressed they would not like it sold, would be bannable under the code of conduct for rules 1 and 2. Reselling copies of digital content in real life is illegal, so it would be common sense under rule 2 especially.

    Skyblock Official Site | Skyblock

    1. You must ensure that you respect the right of other users to use and enjoy the servers and services provided by skyblock.net.

    2. You must use common sense when playing our server. While this may be ambiguous as not all “sense” is common, in the context of our server this means following courtesies and regulations set out in your real world lives, schools, work places and countries. This includes using basic morals such as “stealing is wrong”, “calling someone a name may hurt them and that is bad," or even “speaking nicely to others and using manners is appropriate behaviour."


    Regardless it would be nice to see it added explicitly to the rules page so players like so, can't try and argue the point
     
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    Support!!!
     
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    Drogo agrees this is unfair and should not be done. Quite illegal in the real world.

    Given most sellers state that the map art's are not to be on sold and doing so causes issue that moderators are then asked to deal with, Drogo would say the reselling of map art falls under the 'Disrespecting players' and 'Common Sense' rules. Reselling of map art is illegal.

    However, it is also not fair, that only some players have islands that are suitable for map art.
    Map art is a good source of income and it's not really fair that only some have access to it.

    Drogo doesn't know if there is a solution for it, but map art makers should feel very fortunate for the income it brings.
     
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    Support! Ive seen the hours people put into making mapart and for someone to be able to just resell it and basically steal the profit that could have gone to the creator should be punishable.
     
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    100% agree, it should be added as a rule so that every time this happens there is explicit support from the rules to do something about it. Right now as seen above people flaunt the fact its not against the rules just to further throw it in the faces of creators who bring nice things to the server through the arts that are made.

    I will however not hold my breath as the last time this was brought this up (probably around a year ago) staff told us it is down to the community to deal with these people... (shun them basically) which was silly then and will be silly if that's the response now. Hopefully the last incident of this will be a teaching method of how much easier it will be to just add it as a rule rather than let chaos take over the server chat and forums just to get something done about resellers.

    People who resell will always cause this problem, just add the rule.
     
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    Drogo's first thinking on this was that this rule would protect a players intellectual property but in most instances that is not the case. Most of the images that map art are made from do not belong to the player creating the map art, that is to say that the image was not a creation of their creativity or 'intellect' and therefor cannot be intellectual property.

    There is clearly a fair amount of work that goes into the making of map art so the creators certainly should have a right to be the sole seller should they choose to be.

    On the issue of intellectual property though, Drogo feels that this should be protected as well.
    Most people seem to know what is right and what is wrong and what should be common sense but given the frequency that map arts are copied, there should be a specific rule. Something like the following.

    "Unless approval has been given, players are not to profit from others work, be it manual or intellectual. A violation of this rule will see the player punished and illegally copied items or builds shall be removed. It is the onus of the punished player to provide proof of any approval"
     
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    Does this also apply to if 2 map artists make the same mapart unknowingly and they both selling same mapart but each the one they put their work into?
     
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    Yes it would. Even if they did so knowingly. Neither have a claim to the image if it is sourced from the web.
    If one player has a claim to the image itself then only that player would have a right to it.

    In reality a lot of map art makers are probably violating the copyright of the images they are using.
     
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    support, stealing is bad

    p.s. did u guys know that dueling people with real swords in real life is illegal but in this game you just have to type /pvp and the game lets you ATTACK other people that have pvp on? we must make using swords illegal
     
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    Considering a huge af amount of work goes into this, it really seems like something I can support. It's just not really nice to do especially if you do it especially for profit.
     
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    It would appear you don’t understand the difference between copying of map art and pvping in game.
    One incurs an unexpected loss of great effort, the other does not.
    One is essentially theft, the other is not.
     
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    lol ik drogo i was just kidding because people were bringing real world laws into this
     

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