We need a better logging system!

Discussion in 'Other/Uncategorized Suggestions Archive' started by Puredes, Aug 4, 2014.

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The server needs an alternative.

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  2. No, it doesn't matter.

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  1. RobertTheBruce
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  2. Puredes
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    What about bridging? Where is the fruit of the social life you get from skyblock then? When you isolate yourself you can't expect to be prosperous. Why do people need to have limitations, or boundaries? I think skyblock should have freedom and expression of the imagination. That is why a lot of the audience love this server. Turning nothing into everything. Showing people is the enjoyable part.
     
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    Allow me to TL;DR your post.

     
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    Please do not use slander using my words. I would like to quote your words, "beans are delicious with a side of justice" That merely states that you place yourself above other players and that is highly frowned upon. Just because you donate to a server does not give you the right of superiority.
     
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    What keeps me coming back to .NET is the fascinating creativity that people have
    bled into their islands despite all limitations.

    The way it is now, it's hard to trust any green beans. They may just be new players who are curious to see what sorts of things an island can become, or they may just be waiting to run around boring holes in all your walls and looking for an unprotected valuable to steal.

    Plus, the more people can get away with griefing without leaving logs behind, the more likely even some donors (*shivers*) will tear up an island. If they've been there once as a guest, they could save their /back to return as a griefer after you've logged off.

    I maintain that the constant threat of a bulletproof logging system is a motivator that shouldn't be downplayed. But seriously, people should have all their valuable blocks protected anyway, if for no other reason than to eliminate that headache for themselves and the staff.
     
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    What about bridging? <- Being careful who you invite won't help there.
    Where is the fruit of the social life you get from skyblock then? <- Then: when you're too paranoid to invite people over to chill.

    I assume that's how it was supposed to be read?
     
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    The topic above states that the logging system is inadequate and I asked a question to a moderator. What about bridging? It is an involuntary act that cannot be controlled v. bringing people to your island.
     
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    I fail to see the logic of that.
     
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    Well, considering you just changed your signature people cannot see what you said on it now. The gist is you quoted me then elaborated that I say it is okay to bridge. I did not say anything of the sort hence it is slander. The social life has nothing to do with bridging, because it relates back to the topic of this entire suggestion. I simply asked the moderator, "What about bridging". Bridging is involuntary and can not be stopped, so your privacy and etc. Shall be at risk. The social part of the spectrum has to do with bringing other players to your island. If you cannot do that where is the joy if you cannot show people and interact?
     
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    What does give him the right of superiority is that at least he didn't create a thread and send a bunch of people messages to come look at it.

    Also, bridging is when someone builds a bridge to your island. /tpa-ing friends over in absolutely no way entices bridging. It may encourage griefing, but why would they need to bridge to your island when they're already there? I have no idea wat you mean by that. As long as you're only inviting close friends and not the random people that say "can i c ur islnd", it won't cause any griefs.
     
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    Well, considering you just changed your signature people cannot see what you said on it now. The gist is you quoted me then elaborated that I say it is okay to bridge. I did not say anything of the sort hence it is slander. The social life has nothing to do with bridging, because it relates back to the topic of this entire suggestion. I simply asked the moderator, "What about bridging". Bridging is involuntary and can not be stopped, so your privacy and etc. Shall be at risk. The social part of the spectrum has to do with bringing other players to your island. If you cannot do that where is the joy if you cannot show people and interact?
    The topic is "We need a better logging system" If people bridge to your island and grief/loot your island, the plugin will be useless in some of the cases. What I mean by this is it is indirect and you have no control over it. The teleportation part has to do with them griefing directly rather then indirectly (bridges). The social/interaction part is when you bring people to your island. I am not saying people are bridging from your island, but rather to your island. I have seen very large bridging networks and wrote a report on it. They were destroyed in the end, but did we eliminate the origin of the problem using the logging plugin? Thank you for being active in this suggestion and I don't want to upset anyone, but state that we need an alternative to perhaps end this predicament period to have a greater community and gradually make this server better! I know we can do it because nothing is impossible... Please keep asking questions! I will try to answer them and help make sense of it. You guys are fantastic for wanting to make the server better!
     
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    I just don't see how bridging leads into isolation leads into no social life. The train of thought just doesn't make sense to me.
     
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    Well, kind sir. How does it relate to .nets problem? If I may ask? I know it is .Org, but it is relevant isn't it?
     
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    First off, it's another server. Secondly net islands don't have island protection :p.
     
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    That is why we have this suggestion. *smiley face*
     
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    This may be kinda off topic...

    I kind found a solution (Copy it off of Puredes ) of making our beacons anti-grief
    (And to protect the bottom use furnace :3)

    But I totally agree...

    I wasn't on for around 3 Months due to my mom taking my internet away and when I can back to play .net my island was grief and they used the hopper glitch to steal all of my stuff :p but i Kept most of my rares in my echest...
    Mods can and said "No Logs Sorry" (This was like 3 Months ago)
     

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    I see your island is looking well bryan! Keep up the good work buddy!
     
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    That ain't never gonna happen :p
    What we're trying for is block-logging software, not island protection.
     
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    Oh, that makes sense as well. I made this suggestion, so the people can put what they think on the topic and, so they could put how they felt towards it. Clearly there is something that needs to be fixed. (mainly the logging plugin)
     

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