Anyone who has been playing Skyblock recently knows that grass is running a bit short. The causes for this can be narrowed down to a few things. One being the fact of inactive players, or even active players hoarding grass. There are quite a few names that would fall into this category. The problem is people giving them grass, and that player doing nothing with that grass other than keeping it in chests. To have a good economy there has to be a type of waterfall effect where money starts at the top and trickles down. As of right now there is little to no grass making its way down this said "Waterfall". The next problem falls down to nothing but the server. With the recent update adding wandering traders, a whole new place for grass to go has arrived. Purchasing from the wandering trader automatically takes grass out of the economy. And this is no small number of grass either. The biggest money hole associated to wandering traders would have to be netherite. Every netherite scrap goes for 230g. The amount allowed to be purchased per each wandering trader is 8. Netherite is so sought after that soon after the wandering trader comes out, the netherite is sold out. The grass that is accumulated from these purchases is around 23.75 stacks. Every. time. This is grass that just disappears. But its not only the netherite that causes harm. The whole reason I am making this thread is because of my horrible experience of trying to obtain and farm tropical fish, which has not been successful for me yet. (Not sure if it is possible, pls lmk). But buckets of tropical fish aren't only just for the aesthetic. They are also needed to breed axolotls. So, every time you want to breed axolotls or even just want to have tropical fish on your island, you have to purchase it from the wandering trader.(Or a player, who also purchased it from a wandering trader.). I don't think that items bought from the wandering traders should be rares. Actual implemented items such as heads, or items for holidays should be the rares. This brings me to my next problem: The crash of rare trading. Because people don't have a lot of grass, and there is just more things being added to take away value from these items, the price of rares has dropped drastically. A dp head should not have an offer of 45 stacks of grass. That is crazy. A big part of this could also be a lack of collectors wanting to spend their grass(much more limited and valuable now that this is all happening) to buy rares. Now, I could just gripe and complain, but that really isn't the reason I am creating this thread. My reason is to think of solutions, and also to give the people a reminder of what we should be prioritizing in this community. We shouldn't be throwing thousands of grass into the void to collect this random resource, which means nothing but to look pretty. Unlike rares, which have rich history and fun reminders of the past and present and future of the server, netherite is just an object. There is no special name, there is no title, and there is no date. This is just something that will be in the server no matter what. Why is it so desired? Is it really worth crashing the economy for? I myself have bought a netherite scrap. And I regret it greatly. What am I supposed to do with it now? Show it to people? "Hey look at this random item I bought for 230g" no. that's weird. We should push for a more economically stable way of obtaining this item. Same as with tropical fish, or any other item only able to be obtained by this black hole of a shop. Economy doesn't have these problems because you can sell things to the server to put money back into the economy. This is not an option in Skyblock. Its all up to the players. Its up to us to hold the economy at a stable line. Remember who you are. We are the people of Skyblock. Do not let greed and desire cloud your vision. It is our responsibility to flourish. Do not let this depression continue. #BoycottTheTraders (Please ignore any typos or run on sentences. I tried.) Edit: You can farm tropical fish, its just a very slow and impractical process.
How do we take a market out of a depression? Stimulate the economy! Please ensure you declare your 18.75 stacks (#CrewCheque) as income on your 2024/2025 taxes.
This has been an issue even when I was playing, nothing is gonna change it... Unless the server adds a way for more grass to be added to the economy. Also you talked abt dp heads going for cheaper, that's just because there is so much more dp heads than there was before.
This issue was there before, but it got way worse since we had features like the wandering trader, which deleted thousands of grass blocks every week cuz people bought scrap and beacons. (I‘ve done the maths on the wandering in another thread) The only way grass shortage can be fixed is by generating more grass.
Im aware of this. I didnt make this post saying that these were the only reasons, or that it was just now affecting the economy. The only way to fix it is for more grass to come into the economy. Vote parties and the shop are not enough. I brought this up when I compared Skyblocks' economy to Economy's economy. This is an interesting thought, but I really dont think this is the only reason. Even though there are more dp heads being produced, they are still limited to what kind and type there is. The problem is people not being able to afford to buy and start a collection. This is all just simple economics. Less money in server>Less money to spend>Less of a demand>Cheaper prices.
Is it that people don't have the mean to start a collection or that they aren't interested in it? Hunt heads and other rares have never been this cheap. I suppose it would be a good moment to start collecting them, but I might be biased since I collect heads and other rares myself.
I always have grass to sell. https://skyblock.net/threads/buying-giftcards-paying-grass-new-cards-only-paying-1stack-of-grass-for-every-dollar-spent.142397/ Wandering trader does remove grass, but I really don't see the appeal of netherite on a non-pvp server so I don't know why that's being bought. Rare trades are obviously big money as well, although, I've never seen the appeal of them. And they result in people holding onto large stacks of grass, either from sales or in order to purchase more heads. And of course there are the casinos that bring in large sums. Noobcrew stated that they are only for fun and only take a grass or two but I've given him clear evidence that this is far from the case, with one casino alone having raked in over 200,000 grass. Basically, it's the big price items like rares and big earners like casinos that are pooling and moving all the grass amongst a smaller group of people that would be desired.
I know even if I wanted to start a collection, I dont have the means to do it. Plus people who have obtained the rares dont really want to sell right now due to the "Stocks" being so low. Thats what im sayin. I get it to an extent, but I dont think this material should ever have been made to be limited. It should have kept its natural place in the nether; allowing players to grind and get it without spending obscene amounts of grass on it. Im not saying you're wrong at all, but I know that most casino owners have to be active enough to restock their casinos. And stocking casinos can be pricey sometimes, so there is still some grass disbursement through that. But yes, casinos do make ungodly amounts of grass. As for the rares, it makes sense to me why they have a bigger price tag. Although you dont see value in them, I think it is a way to make fun in the server. I like more material rares such as heads and collectables. I dont really like having grass other than just to fund my builds and what makes me happy. Not everyone plays like that though, some like to have dcs of grass just tucked off in the corner of nowhere. I dont think rares are responsible for the shortage of grass at all, because all trading of rares stays in the player base. And most of the time, its a way of putting more grass into the economy.
I agree with that, but it has been like that ever since casinos are a big thing. Rare demand & prices started to go down when 1.19 came out, that's why I believe the wandering trader plays a big part.
Blaming the grass shortage on anything that has existed for a while doesn't make sense. The only reasons this is happening is because of 2 things: Grass being deleted for trader items like scrap and beacons, and also not having vote rewards for offline players (eco players not receiving vote rewards on skyblock). One could also argue that the 50 grass for $5 deal being taken off of the store has affected the grass count, but it was an awful deal so I doubt it did much. Blaming the shortage on hoarders or casinos make no sense, because they have existed long before 1.19.
The Great Depression in real life didnt come from one thing either. It came from mass spending with money and debt that people couldnt afford. Not saying people are making loans and such in skyblock, but we continue to put money into the pockets of general stores and casino owners. This isnt the only cause at all. And the main reason I made this thread was to address the wandering trader, and how it was not sustainable. However you can turn a blind eye and say that these have been existing problems, so they arent a problem at all. Imfe said it in his response. This has been a thing since long before the wandering trader was implemented. However, I'm not going to disagree with you when you say that the leading cause is traders, and no rewards for offline players. Thank you for responding and giving your thoughts
Personally, I think casinos are ok as long as they are legit, however what I meant about them not being the problem is I don't think they contribute to the grass shortage more or less than they did before 1.19. Casinos absolutely move more grass than almost anything else, but this grass shortage comes only from wandering trader and vote rewards.
Im sorry, but I disagree that those are the only reasons. A leading cause, yes. But not the only reason.
What other reasons are there? Are there more players hoarding grass than before 1.19? Are casinos more popular than before the update? I was only active for about 4 months before the update but I don't remember casinos being less prevalent but then again I was a new player so maybe I wasn't paying attention. Also I'm pretty sure you can get tropical fish from warm ocean biomes.
as long as players have open mob farms etc this will continue to happen , instead of giving out cobble sell it by the inventory full everything will make a difference if u just do it , give grass blocks a reason again to be worth something
Ive said multiple times in previous replies the other reasons. Please feel free to read those Yeah, ive realized that there are different ways. Thanks for updating
Aren't grass blocks worth more if there's a shortage? Also, I'm having trouble understanding how mob farms are part of the issue here.
