Yeah. But it's impossible to prove that a build / redstone construction was your own idea. And it's also impossible to prove that someone else just didn't have the exact same idea lol, even though it's very unlikely.
That comes back to reasonable doubt I guess. You do have to ask if it's worth pursuing though. I've just seen a few bans handed out that were considerably shorter than I would have though appropriate. And if your going to penalise people for copying something they had no right to copy, then you will find that just about anyone who's ever made a map art is guilty of that.
If it looks copied beyond a reasonable doubt. There will always be similar redstone and builds, but also many different ways to make redstone builds. If it’s pretty much the exact block placement and style, as shown in the screenshots, then that imo is enough for suspicion to look into. Maybe check the logs if the player was on your island, and where they stepped as well.
The creators of art that map artists use don't play on here typically. I think we should try to stay focused on the topic at hand.
The main issue we face is that it would be very hard to enforce and for many scenarios, it would be nearly impossible. If a design is on YouTube, or anywhere else on the internet, someone can claim they made it first and then report someone else who has copied it. Our rules have been rewritten many times and we always start off making it generalized to be flexible. If we get too specific people find loopholes and then try to ‘lawyer’ their way out of things. Somehow people keep asking for rules to be more specific and then evolve to becoming too specific again. It’s a constant back-and-forth The thing that we worry about with the stealing designs is that it's hard to draw a line between what is stolen and what isn't. If someone's redstone looks similar block for block, yes a red flag, but it's also a bunch of logic circuits that anyone could figure out and place a little differently even without seeing someone's redstone. You can't prove that your supposed original creation doesn't exist anywhere else. Hard to verify that someone has actually been to the 'original' place of build and whether the build was the original design. I've approached the team about this possibility, but, very hard to verify and enforce. Yes, but, very hard to prove. Unfortunately, our logs don't have exact time stamps, so this possibility is not true. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the fact that things are being copied, but it is so hard to enforce and verify.
But you decided, hmmm...I'm not going to ask him for it, I'm going to just take it. To not pay him for it. You're a thief and idc how you did it, but it wasnt yours to take that way. Oh wait, you sent someone to take pictures of it, right? Smart. Saved yourself some money but lost respect from a bunch of us. Disappointing.
I actually tried this for fun on Keif's island BreezeSkyland when he locked half of the 1x2; he had asked me to write a review w some pictures for the May island competition. It seems that elytra gliding into the locked space from the unlocked airspace doesn't work, but you are able to go thru it with a boat after some rubberbanding if there is water connecting the two spaces.
You can enter locked islands with /fly or an elytra. You just can't enter them while a player is on the locked island.
That's a specific case, people being unable to copy without resources. It's more the designs, not the resources or collectibles behind it. Yeah it's harder to copy if everything you got is expensive and you've spent a good amount of time gathering collectibles on the server. Obviously it will take longer and more effort for someone to copy. If you're newer or less grindy, and create something unique or different than others, then someone more experienced or well-known comes along and copies your build. It may be upsetting to the one who actually put the thought into it. Basically feeling used. Some things people have that they want to keep secret actually gives them an advantage as well. Like ChiTownSound's and Mafrorific's cat farms, They were making approx 64grass per cat (~$512000 skybucks). A player came along, either used litematica or glitched in and took pictures, and then made cats completely free. Ruining a good market for cats. But also making it free, and everyone likes free. It was a decent-good source of income for them both, that was something they both worked on and asked each other about. They both had it locked up and out of sight, only for it to be copied and turned free. Their cat income was obliterated. Not that this matters but, Mafrorific was also unranked at the time, and the one who copied was highest paid rank. Granted Mafro is not new, and at the time did not have a /kit skytitan that yielded daily income unlike the other player. The cats for them were good. But now the work they did was pretty much thrown away by this single person who thought its cool to copy rather than doing research. Obviously that's been over now and explained already (oops). It's why some people don't like copying, and want to keep stuff secret as best as possible while keeping island unlocked for other players. You should not be able to schematic or enter locked islands at any time. Maybe even not able to see the island, some players want to keep things secretive and private. Who knows maybe there's personal information on the island and the player thinks its safe because its locked. False sense of security and well, why even put personal information on an island to begin with. Wild scenario, at that point it's on the player whether they care or not. swag
The answer is no, they aren't allowed to use litematica to copy your island without permission. Litematica is a hack just like any other. The unfortunate thing is that there is no tangible serverside evidence when freecam/litematica is used. Though when circumstantial evidence is strong, like in the case of the cat farm on survival, I think staff should proceed with punishment, and retract the punishment if sufficient counter-evidence is provided in an appeal (eg providing evidence of permission, or a youtube build tutorial predating the copycat's build date).
Some of you might recognise this as part of my survival island. However this isn’t my island. It’s a copy that someone chose to make. I found it strange but wasn’t really concerned as there’s no IP there and they likely bought a lot of coal and lapis from me to build it. Ideas/concepts are free to copy, so long as they are publicly available. But direct copies should be approved by the originator. For instance, it’s not hard to breed and sell cats. But don’t copy someone’s build to do it. All casinos, profit/AFK shops etc, were originally one persons idea but many people have adopted them.
You make a very good, and valid point. In the cat situation, both parties were talked to, resulting in said material being put forward from the copying party's side. Along with insufficient evidence of a schematic being used, a decision was made. Similarly, both sides in this new incident are being talked with. Punishment doesn’t need to be the main focus here, it’s the lesson taken away from the situation. Talking to both parties before making hash decisions saves the need for an appeal, and, the chance of one party feeling mistreated. (in the situation that it has not been copied) Ultimately, hearsay isn’t enough to work off. As unfortunate as it is that work has been taken and not credited, with the current tools at our disposal, we can’t do much.
