If people honestly think that shutting down an app because of inactivity on one or more of the listed things is a joke.
They have moderators for discord, so that is a pointless argument to make. Also requiring so much input on forums? Are we stuck in 2012? Seriously.
This is a rare moment I have to agree with something hewhoshallnotbenamed said. Eco and Survival should have different moderation teams. Just like there is a different team for discord, likewise should happen with eco and surv.
Denying someone who would make the space better because they don't have activity in one of the aforementioned things is just folly. This is a huge reason the staff team is just a clique. Honestly it's become a joke to even be on staff. You better be overly friendly to whoever is high enough to get you in. The staff team shouldn't be a popularity contest. It should be an evaluation of someone's ability to moderate without bias and with fairness, which the current team has fallen so far from I hate to say. I left partially for this reason. There is near no unbias in the team anymore and it is purely a contest to convince the majority that you are popular enough to be in it. I know there are a couple small exceptions but even those exceptions are starting to just join the clique. I hope some current applicants manage to get in and make some changes to these issues.

 

I think you have good points, but near all of them are easily refuted by the fact that a good amount of the staff on the staff team isn't active on anything period anymore and nothing is done to remove them, but we will judge the new applicants under the same guidelines? Cmon now.
(EDIT) 'Our platforms, especially Discord, Economy, and Skyblock, have different player bases.' How does discord have a different player base LMAO. Is not the discord supposed to be for people who play on one of the servers? If not then what is the point of it? I rest.
(EDIT 2) 'I can see both sides of needing separate staff teams for each in-game server, but I do believe at this time there is no need to overcomplicate things.' Are you joking, complicate what? The staff team is a popularity contest with the current and mostly inactive staff. Changes need to happen or this server will fall harder than it already has.

 

I don’t agree with a lot of what’s being said here but I strongly believe Economy would benefit from their own team of moderators

 

'I don't really see an issue with retaining staff despite their lack of in-game activity. If you have someone you trust on the team, and they know what they're doing, there isn't all that much of an issue keeping them for the likely scenario that they do return.' You literally just proved my point about activity. Thank you. Also likely scenario? You have had inactives that have been reaching years not months. That's just a funny comment.

'The Discord server holds a completely different base of players that interact with each other. I don't mean to be petty with this comment, but, as you're banned from this platform, you wouldn't know this, which is okay.' You think that being on discord is a different game? You have lost the point of SB. Also just an insanely dumb comment to make saying I wouldn't know because I'm banned, I keep up just fine and it's still a joke.

'There is a lot of back-end processes that would need to be changed to allow for a change of staff split by servers to happen.' You know I have moderation experience right? This is only partially true, and it wouldn't be that hard. Don't try to convince people otherwise that's hilarious.

(EDIT) Also being on the staff team. You are literally biased. You're opinion here is very weak on this specific topic.

 

I think this discussion has the potential to be very constructive. However, we should probably keep any shade or criticisms of the staff team or applicants off this thread to maintain a respectful tone.

While I don’t entirely disagree with the points raised, I’d like to share my perspective. Regarding staff inactivity, it’s true that some members are less active, and from an outside perspective, I can understand how that might be perceived. However, considering that the team isn’t particularly large, it’s reasonable that demotions for inactivity don’t occur as frequently as they did in the past.

As for the structure of the in-game team, I believe it should remain as it is. Splitting the team into separate groups for different server moderation would likely create unnecessary confusion. Many moderators enjoy focusing on different servers, and having separate teams would complicate things further. I do understand the point about Discord having its own dedicated team, but as Discord moderators, we’re essentially just regular players with access to Discord-specific moderation tools however in-game moderators have permissions across all platforms, so maintaining a single team makes more sense.

That said, you raised an important point that I’ve also mentioned in the past: applicants should not be held to stricter standards than current staff members. Joining the staff team shouldn’t feel like an impossible goal, and everyone deserves a fair chance. Applicants who are active on only one server still show strong engagement and seem capable in terms of activity. However, I do believe Discord activity should be a significant priority for applicants, as it’s a major hub for communication and support. The Discord server provides numerous ways to assist players, making it an essential part of staff responsibilities.

This is just my take on it.

 

I wish both economy and skyblock had different staff members, itd be nice.

 

Ironic you are one to complain

 

So condisering that the team isn't very large, and that inactive staff aren't demoted due to them not doong the role the applied for, would that alone not be grounds to hire newer more active staff?

I've often seen new staff apply and get the role. Only to have the role for a few weeks and quit their activitiy. That ist worthy quality's of staff. So therefore new more active staff would be appreciated.

I barely remember, but still do, a time when eco had active daily staff and the daily drama wasn't as nearly as bad as it gets now. But then the active staff left us and were left without active staff to the same degree.

If this is so, how come there haven't been any new staff in ages when the latest newest members aren't active either.

Could I suggest that you check this thread out?

Staff Applications | Skyblock Official Site

 

The reason they aren’t hiring is because the applicants are not up to the servers standards. It’s not that hard to work out why. If they were then they would have been hired already

 

Bu then going by that logic, I could say the same about some of the current staff. I'll keep my opinions to myself but still. Give new applicants a chance. There's a Couple of applicants currently definitly support. Emy and ledgendcraft as an example would make great staff

 

if you're interested in being staff why wouldn't you be active? that's like not showing up to work irl (which maybe you should consider doing and not be making pointless threads) and expecting a promotion. the activity requirements show you have interest and many declined applications due to inactivity are because people no longer have an interest and leave their application abandoned.

 

So what does this say about our current non active staff? Just looking on the /staff list in game, I see several staff that haven't logged on the server in 2 or more weeks. I'm sure at an actual workplace as you're examples give, theyd say that shows lack of interest or capacity to be active as a requirement you claim is needed. Many of the current and past applicants have been more active than our current staff have been.
Perhaps its just the fact that no matter who applys for staff, the current team have no interest to recruit new members to their team.

 

I just want to raise some points for people here.

First one regarding staff activity. While you would like staff to be on everyday etc. We must remember they are actual people who have lives, families, commitments, maybe studies or irl jobs that may require time away longer then people would like. Remember people have personal lives. Which may require a lot of time away.

Now I do agree there is staff issues itself. Where it does get hard to find staff Ingame, where the only options are making tickets in the discord or a forum on the website itself.

I think it’s wrong to compare a real life job to an admin position on a game, it’s quite biased. People come here even as staff to have fun and play the game and that needs to be respected, whilst also I’m sure a lot of staff do help, they want to play the game and relax. (Remember they aren’t paid) it’s a volunteer role.

The issue with amount of staff/lack of staff has been an increased in conversation for the past month, debates in voice chats and in the server have became frequent.

I would also like to suggest to the server to introduce an Ingame helpticket plugin, in which I can happily help find if needed.

I’d also like to see a structure to how the staff is, for example the role “helper” can be split down to be dedicated to which part of the server they’d like to help admin if that’s /economy or /survival. A lot of servers have done this along with my past experience. If then people get promoted to the role of moderator. They will need to be required/help both economy and survival.


whilst I do appreciate and thank the comment from Craftwithabbie, people remember those who have applied for a role understand the possible waiting time, and commitment to being active. Trust the process and trust the staff team and the players and respect eachother.

Whilst I am neutral in this debate, I’d like to defend both sides as I understand all points being raised, but I do think some comments/sarcasm and insults are not necessary and not professional either.

All sides have all good points there will always be a for and against in these kinds of debates.

Discord itself in my opinion does not need change, it works. The staff are good at what they do, and help is often quick as it can be.

Just a reminder we have only just came off a Christmas period too, where people are getting ready to go back to studies and work. So staff inactivity will potentially drop. The same with standard player counts too.


I’ve been on this sever a long time now and I love it here, Skyblock has always been a home for me. Aswell as the community, back in my earlier days I wasn’t well known. I kept to myself. But I played the game.

Now the issue with the comment with “staff being accepted based on popularity” I think is wrong. Staff members can’t help if they become a known player or not, when you are trying to be active Ingame, discord etc. Your name is going to pop up often. You can’t help if you become popular based on this. And where I’ve heard people saying it’s based on staff opinions if it gets accepted or not. Whether it’s true or not, they do have a right to have their say. Aswell as the opinions of players who always give helpful feed back on applications, everything is always appreciated and taken in note.

Now overall I think the staff team itself is doing the best job that they can. And it’s always good to see other players who don’t even have a helper role or a moderator role helping the community, that to me shows how good of a community we are trying to be. I try help everyone I can as often as I can whilst I try enjoy the game for myself too. I do agree we need more staff, but there is a solution that can be fixed with time and people need to trust the process.

Thanks for reading this and love to all

 

At an actual workplace you get paid. Big difference!

If they were paying their staff members, perhaps they wouldn’t need to go offline for so long (you know, because people need to self-suffice out in the real world). Not suggesting them to start handing out wages though lol

Treat the issue as voluntary assistance (which it is). Some staff can volunteer more than others, that’s fine. I don’t see the use in comparing this to real-life work, it’s an incredibly flawed argument.

 

Of course you may, that is part of the point of their thread afterall, applicants being denied due to inactivity, what with as you quote hplidays and Xmas happened recently. But aren't those times active staff are needed more?

Not having a go at innactive staff, just I see it alot on staff list when players have asked for help. Before Xmas too, current staff often go for several weeks without logging on, and its great if staff are working off server, but then that takes us back to the op wanting more active staff in game.

Agreed too.

Sure, (I'm not the one who gave the work place analogy, I simply replied in their given example.)

 

other than slagomizer and redstone who are probably inactive for their own concerns and have probably addressed this to the staff managers and nor do they owe anyone but the staff managers a reason of their inactivity because it is quite literally no one else's concerns due to the potential nature of the problem, the other staff members you're showing were only inactive for a few days so i'm not entirely sure what your point is. idk if you forgot but this staff role is unpaid so you're not going to be able to be online 24/7. also at an actual workplace you'd get a pay which these volunteers are not receiving. these staff members have been staff for quite some time and it's extremely normal for them to get relaxed in their position after a while. when you start off your position, you're expected to be active because you just got promoted but after some time it's typically okay for you to lay back a bit.

ok? you do realize that they might've not been promoted for a specific reason? i.e. they might not be what the staff managers are looking for. just cause a community supports them does not mean they automatically fit the position and quality staff managers are looking for. no shade at all but it's literally just a fact.

i'm so surprised on how butthurt people seem to get over a block game. either play it or don't like really nobody cares. all you people do is whine and whine about not getting this or that but you don't realize the background of being a staff member and i feel like most of this discontent is coming from the fact that your staff application never got accepted but that might just be my pov.