Skyblock and the Minecraft Marketplace: A Legal Battle

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  1. TheStormcrafter
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    The f*** do I hate shady company. This has me going mad.
     
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    I hope you win and gain the trademark, you got it!!:heart: :heart:
     
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    I hope you win noobcrew! I honestly have not played the original map (I downloaded it, haven't played yet) and I have been playing the Hypixel version (they should credit you)
    The people who call their versions original are just selfish human beings trying to profit of something that isn't theirs.
    You are legendary for giving this incredible map for free!
    You are going to win, Microsoft themselves said something about:
    The game, we own
    The cool wooden house you made, we don't own
    smt along the lines probably butchered.
    I made an account just to support you.
    Also why is easy games opposing you? Like thats a roblox, um, developers and they shouldn't even be in this . (I was originally was wondering why Easy Anti-Cheat was opposing against you lol)
     
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    Don't let them steal this from you. It has never been more important for us to work together to wrench the hands of the corporate out of the pockets of creatives.
     
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    Rights for an artwork should belong to an author of an artwork. I wish you to win this case
     
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    To build something in minecraft should feel safe; like no one can take it from you. You are a Builder and Creator of something it is rightfully yours, and you know that! Don't Yield. Good luck. ❤️☁️
     
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    I (too) may be wrong (to varying degrees), but I think we all are forgetting about a big factor: feelings.
    If a gamer remembers some concept that is realized in “Skyblock”, and feels the appetite to play something with that concept, then the gamer is very likely to search for “Skyblock”, download “Skyblock”, play “Skyblock” and feel better.
    If a gamer remembers some concept that is realized in “Minecraft”, and feels the appetite to play something with that concept, then the gamer is very likely to search for “Minecraft”, download “Minecraft”, play “Minecraft” and feel better.
    With this in mind, I can’t understand yet: *what the factor(-s) is/are there because of which one thing should be more considered too generic to be at least somehow IPd while another is not?* (Somehow to at least prevent everyone from forgetting who the contributor(-s) of something is/are)

    There is something special in the fact that we all should fence ourselves and our friends off from “Minecraft Marketplace” every time, like from smoking, casinos, “CS” skins, “TF” hats… In fact, the developers of such things would hardly use them themselves, and there’s no point in doing something that’s harmful to everyone and from which you fence your friends and yourself. There must be some forgiving/mitigating explanation for their actions, right?.. At least for some of them?.. Because, you know, there is always “good” in people of “bad” companies and “bad” in “good” ones (I mean those people who have and don’t have apathy disbalance/selective empathy in their mind).

    I’m not hinting at anything, but remember, there’s always a choice to stop proving something to someone. At the very least, it saves a lot of nerves, which in the future might be better spent on saving something more valuable. I don’t deny how terrible plagiarism is, how terrible it’s for people not to know exactly enough about contributors who really put in the effort, how terrible the inability to help and support them enough is (giving more of energy and other resources to unrelated people)… But this has always happened. Yes, there must be hope to fight it effectively, at least to suppress it for a few years. But, again, I have no intention of ruining it if you’ve already made the choice personally. I show by my example that it’s important to *stop and think* about what you want *to manage to do more in your life* :
    — fight the current problems with laws on intellectual property;
    — or just continue doing your favorite things that bring happiness to people (even if they don’t realize it), happiness you, probably, want to see.
    Because it’s *rare* to succeed in both. If deep down inside you choose the first — I really praise and thank you and really appreciate your efforts to protect anybody’s rights from the ageless “neverending” dizzying cruelties of reality, please hold fast your hope and determination. If the second — I really praise and thank you and really appreciate your efforts to support and save any beautiful culture and development of civilization, which are agelessly “neverendingly” unfairly beaten from all sides, please hold fast your hope and determination.

    I don’t know what else to formulate about all this yet…

    There are people who consider “Skyblock” “just” a minigame/gamemode. Considering in this way is terrible. Yes, it can be considered a minigame/gamemode: as a very relative term to other big (a very relative term too) games/engines/languages that are known in this world. But it, on its own, does not mean that it doesn’t deserve to be at least somehow IPd.

    It seems to me too that any current laws on IP are too harmfully abstract, unfinished, reliable… At the moment I believe that if a player wants to support a developer financially in any amount, the player should be able to transfer things quite directly, and this should not affect access to downloading/copying any piece of information. Sometimes it feels like many people throw money around and at who knows who, just to seem “not pirates”… In the past, someone had to put in a significant amount of effort to copy information from paper to paper, or on papyri, or on rocks, but now, when machines can easily copy any massive program code or other information in milliseconds/seconds/minutes/etc. on their own, why would you pretend that it’s so labor-intensive? (This pretending is so common nowadays…) Just because it’s profitable for you and your family only?.. Or is there some other reason?
     
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    I really hope you can get Skyblock trademarked
     
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    Minecraft is a creative tool owned by Microsoft. Microsoft Word is a creative tool owned by Microsoft. Are they gonna fight for every novel that was written in Microsoft Word now too? That is your intellectual property on a platform designed for imagination and creation.

    i remember when the original was all my friends in school could talk about, when it first made it's name everywhere on minecraft youtube. i remember learning how to use hamachi just so i could play a private skyblock server with my friends

    this was back in the day where there was NO pricetag to additional minecraft content, when you could download a cool new custom map but there would be two links: one that took you direct to the download and an ad.fly where you could choose to support the creator.

    i am proud that you support the common use of your work as is the nature of minecraft before microsoft but for them to allow anyone to take credit for it and make money of it without your consent is despicable. at the very least you should have a share of the profits they make off of your work AND all of your legal expenses paid for the past four years AND to pay you your shares FROM the conception date of them making money off of skyblock.

    as a roblox player too, i used to play the skyblock they had there, and i am happy for you that both roblox and the creator of that place adapted to your terms as they too are profiting off of it, it really is quite simple?
     
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    a thought just occurred to me. In the UK at least, there are laws for consumer protection and unfair trading regarding false advertising - microsoft are profiting off people who are claiming that they have released "the original" or "the one and only" skyblock yet the original skyblock, by name, is your creation.

    who are they too oppose your trademark, if they can also allow false advertisement.
     
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    While I haven't played the original Skyblock, I did play a variant once.
    That variant was published on the Minecraft Forums.

    It basically evolved on the concept by having multiple big islands with multiple resources spread from each other.
    You'd need to build bridges to go across the islands and discover the different environments, find secrets, gather loot and so on.

    I didn't have to pay a cent for it and while I don't remember if they credited you or not, it was a pretty cool experience.
    I also did watch a bunch of YouTubers play on the original and variants too.

    My take is that any Skyblock map should be free because well, that's how it began.

    I think you deserve the right to hold the name and monetize it yourself (if you want) because it's your idea.
    But since this is a trademark matter, I do get that it's about people using the name you came up with.

    I don't think it's fair for anyone, but you, to make money off it in any circumstance (be it with a different name or not).
    I think it's pretty cool that you are ok with them copying the concept but with a different name.
    I don't like how some of these companies are pretending to be the "original" or the "one and only skyblock". They are just profitting off someone else's idea.

    And I absolutely despise that Microsoft is on their side. Of course they are, they take a cut of the revenue from the marketplace content.

    With that said, I hope it all works out for you and I hope you keep your word on letting people use the name as long as it's not monetized and properly credited.
    It seems like a balance in which people are allowed to use the name as a collective thing but not to profit maliciously.
     
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    I hope Microsoft loses this!
     
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    I don't really like the idea of trademarking the name (like there are a lot of free modpacks with a skyblock in name, what will happen to them?), but I guess it's the only way you can prevent selling a slightly changed copy of your map on the marketplace so I with you. I trust you, I don't trust M$. I'm afraid that if M$ win, they'll have a precedent justifying selling copies of popular maps and mods to unaware kids (it's surely original content, there is a whole block different there!)
     
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