Dumb 2 Week Evidence Rule

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  1. Nikoshka
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    Support. This rules is stupid.
     
    Nikoshka, Jun 4, 2016
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  2. Krissy
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    Krissy Stray Kids everywhere all around the world Administrator Discord Administrator Premium Premium

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    If people actually read what I said properly instead of hitting disagree your answer would be solved.
    However if you want to disagree with the actual proceedure that is taken who am I to stop you.
    Good luck
     
    Krissy, Jun 4, 2016
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  3. Lz
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    I disagree to what you said.
     
    Lz, Jun 4, 2016
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    Well what I said is what happens.
    Let me go through this step by step you everyone can grasp it.

    -Player evidence must be recent. Recent evidence is placed at 2 weeks or it is deemed invalid. There have been a few times that old evidence has been used to punish a player and they a) had been punished before and b) the person reporting just wanted them banned for some personal reason.

    -When I say you can still be punished for a crime that is over 2 weeks old it is because staff have ability to check who performed a crime. So if say someone was looted while on holiday they can ask us to get evidence. That is how people get their stuff sorted out. So wheres the confusion at? So the person still gets punished in end, same outcome.

    -When we screenshot logs, the screenshot is less than two weeks old. So it is recent evidence... no need to worry about that.

    In short this suggestion implies that people can get away with things once two weeks is up. It is completely false.
    The rule affects nothing except people who like to accumulate evidence to use against people.

    We do not need to drop the rule.

    Also ps, most griefing cases are not bannable
    It is your responsibility to ensure you are not looted.
    This really would only apply to scams. So if you are scammed, report straight away, smart thing to do.

    No support.
     
    Krissy, Jun 4, 2016
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  5. Sam
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    Support, but Krissy does have a point
     
    Sam, Jun 4, 2016
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  6. dolpinmilk
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    I have no idea what point you're trying to make. If this rule exists, they can't be punished. That's using invalid evidence to ban. Like the rule states, any evidence after two weeks is deemed invalid.

    "So the person still gets punished in the end, same outcome."
    That is full on, 100%, abuse, according to this rule. The moderator rules state that you need valid evidence to ban.
     
    dolpinmilk, Jun 4, 2016
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    Still no. A month at most is what I'd agree with
     
    Teeler, Jun 4, 2016
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  8. MrFudgyButtons
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    if it happened a year ago... you still did the crime.
    cases remain open for years.
    logic if its over 2, who cares?

    also, we cannot know who will grief us, if they grief, they should still be banned.
    if i let you in my house, and you steal, that is still theft.


    WHERE ARE THE LOGIC IN SKYBLOCKS RULES.
     
    MrFudgyButtons, Jun 4, 2016
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    ^^^^
     
    Fern, Jun 4, 2016
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  10. dolpinmilk
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    Myrmidous what is there to disagree with in the post? It's what the rule states :p
     
    dolpinmilk, Jun 4, 2016
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  11. dolpinmilk
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    Bumping this d:
     
    dolpinmilk, Jun 7, 2016
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  12. Hoecobo
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    Love how all of these rules are appearing out of thin air. Some kind of announcement would be helpful.
     
    Hoecobo, Jun 7, 2016
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  13. dolpinmilk
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    It was posted on twitter but does anyone honestly check that .-.
     
    dolpinmilk, Jun 7, 2016
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  14. MikaMelody
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    AKA DUMB RULE

    I Support
     
    MikaMelody, Jun 8, 2016
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    Let's get this straight.

    What are the evidences that can be provided by common Players?
    1. Screenshots
    2. Videos
    What's the Point in Holding back These evidences two weeks long?

    As Krissy said, the evidences for griefs and looting can still be found after way more than two weeks and only by mods.

    So there is no way this rule could prevent an offender from being punished other than the (scam/harrasment) victim didn't Report him at all, or only more than two weeks later because of... second thoughts?

    If it was a grief or looting, mods could still provide the evidences.

    There is an evidence decay also in law IRL, to prevent abuses. It's the same thing here. So no support.
     
    Frederic, Jun 8, 2016
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