On just the first 15 or 20 sell prices, I spent over 5 hours testing and researching before coming up with them.

 

Trade as in inter-player trade? the prices are self-sufficient enough.

Excuse me, but couldn't people who 'want to challenge' themselves could simply just not participate in the shops?

After all, they could use only the starting grass blocks and still make a decent island with just wood and stone. The mob farms could provide wool and bone meal for decor and farming instead and everyone will be happy.

I mean, if everything is so easy, couldn't they just impose that kind of challenge on themselves? It seemed like you had a problem with islands being set up too soon. I'm saying that the endgame island should be more geared towards warfare, in which it's possible to lose stuff. There's just too many ways to make money and not enough that causes you to lose money.

As for the donor items, neither of the special things really should be allowed for nondonors. I see donors as people who have access to special commands and neither of the items change the game other than making it easier to make money and maintain it. Spawners aren't needed by most people. You could spawn neutral mobs on grass and breed them. Hostile mobs can obviously be farmed, except for endermen. Make it more challenging? Right, giving people the option to buy such things would just accelerate the income for the wealth. It's like a tax cut for the wealthy: ineffective for the economy (in fact, I'll bet they'll be the only ones to have it for the first few days, then they'll have a gazillion of them, destroying the market for pork chops and whatever else). As for enderchests, PLEASE. But I digress. We can make those ourselves. Obsidian, enderpearls and blaze powder can be obtainable, thus the enderchest is buildable without those probably ridiculous prices. Either way, it'd have to be less than 4800 but I've seen obsidian, by far the most expensive block at 600 in the shop, go for 128 for 100 bucks. I don't see the point of having them in the shop.

Sorry but 5 hours ain't anything. The problem isn't the game. It's the people. If you could set up a fully functioning mob farm in 5 hours, it's because you have lots of practice and already know that's what you need. You may argue that anyone with half a brain cell would build a mob farm, but generating the cobblestone takes up a lot of time. 5 hours won't get you to 10k. I still haven't reached 10k and I've been playing since thanksgiving. Higher prices won't deter anything because all it is is just people taking a longer time to gather up their money. Either remove mob farming, the least labor intensive except for spider eyes, for making money or find a way to lose money.

You wouldn't even need to do that research and testing.

 

I honestly don't understand why you seem to be attacking my idea. I haven't even defined a single price, or item that would be sold, or bought. Yet you've gone after examples that don't even exist ...

Are you trying to argue, or do you want to be giving criticisms that are relevant?

 

We aren't updating them on anything yet. So all comments made until we give them an update is invalidated. It's not their fault either they just have to be patient. I support the prices you gave already so keep going. When you finish it all, i'll agree/ disagree with it all and we can put the finishing touches, etc etc.

 

honestly people will hate me for this but i vote for prices to be raised i have a diamond set of armor which i got in about 10 hours of cobble mining and mobdrops prices should be raised




here come the disagrees

 

It's fine, let them disagree.

 

Sounds good. And the work I spend on it is entirely done to counter the problems that may arise.

 

Mhmm, people have a right to demonstrate their opinion. As long as it isn't there to be malicious.

 

ok

 

One thing I don't understand is that people aren't noticing that these changes actually aren't that bad. Most people have the skill/ play style to get money quick. Players just need to stop overeacting and let the Mods/Admins do their job.

-theaviator26

 

The main thing people didn't like was the idea of a reset. Of course that has been denied now. I personally like the idea of a challenge in this economy. Most people won't agree though because they want everything to be easy.

 

Think of how video games are evolving (btw this is in agreement with your statement). They are becoming more about making the experience easy for the user. You don't find any games without tutorials, and you don't find any games without difficulty settings, except for a select few. They also tell you what you have to do, all the time. It is a market trend - more players simply don't care to look for a challenge. This also goes for things like school. More students are getting A's, even though that's not how it's supposed to work. People fight for things to be made so that they feel like they've accomplished something, even when they haven't. It's a sad trend, and it's building up fast.

 

The thing is, I DON'T HAVE MONEY. Its like living from pay check to pay check, also with my remodeling of my island, I am gonna be horribly broke XD. I only got 10k and no way to get it back if it gets reset. :/

 

you guys should take some suggestions from the players because they or we are the ones who makes up the server itself. make a poll or something like that.

personally, this thread shouldn't be in suggestion section the way you mods handle it. Its kind of one-sided actually.

a word from the admin about this matter is needed, in my opinion.

 

Talking to Gwism about it. He likes the idea of changing up prices. Have not had a set decision on resetting anything.

Also, by the way, people seem to think that we are throwing ideas at them without any request for criticism. Um ... yeah, that's wrong. I have simply noticed that a lot of people wish to word their responses on a contentious manner. That leads me to respond to them, and inform them that yes, you can criticize us, but you just need to do it the right way. Don't attack what isn't their. We have yet to take any notable action in regards to this topic.

And if people would just read my damn comments, they would notice that I do take criticisms and consider them.
That I don't oppose everything you say ... as long as you aren't just attacking me for something that I never did.

SO LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY:
Nothing has been decided yet besides a change in prices. Any further decisions will be posted at a later date.

If more people respond irresponsibly, ignoring what I've said, then I'm unwatching this thread and reserving my discussion to the other staff.

 

And anyways it is up to the "heads" to decide to reset anything thing or change anything soz.

 

Which is the main concern lol

 

As I said another thread, villager trading also kills the economy:

 

OHHH. Disregard everything I've said. Who cares what the prices are if you have villagers and other ways to get cheaper stuff?

 

Essentially, yes.