Do away with /topvotes

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  1. KhalDrogo
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    It’s been long known by many that anyone aiming for topvoter can screw over others by voting with their name on a different server and preventing them from voting for skyblock.net.
    This now only occurs on vote2 it seems.
    This is made very easy for these nasty sorts due to /topvotes as it shows them exactly who they need to screw over. (Well almost as it only updates individuals vote counts if they log in to the game)
    Other than aiding this cheating process, /topvotes doesn’t really aid anyone. We can all see how many votes we are on by using /vote and we all see the eventual winners on the forums.
    If vote2 changes to allow people to vote on multiple sites then it would be fine but until then, Drogo suggests removing the /topvotes command.
     
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    I agree 100%
    Any time you allow people to see who's first in a list it sparks competition to get to the top of it. Similarly to how seeing who has trusted you lead to more trust griefs, this system allows people to target top voters so they may be out of the running. Since we removed the former it should be wise to also remove the latter for the same base reasons.

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    Support, mainly because it happened to me.:)
     
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    I agree / support this. I think the command is useful just that you have got the votes. But maybe this could be become a personalised thing: So when you type /topvotes it will give you a number that only you can see.
     
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    Such as a ranking saying that you are 5th with blah blah votes? for example
     
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    That would be handy but still would only be as accurate as the current top voters list which doesn’t account for players that haven’t logged in and doesn’t list those that vote late to avoid getting on the list.
    One of Drogo’s kin won this month but was never on the list as he always voted late bar the last day.
    The list means little as it all comes down to the first 10 voters to vote on the last day with maximum votes.
    Even on the last day you might see yourself listed 8th but if there were a few who voted earlier and haven’t logged in, you might find yourself out of the top 10.
    This just causes confusion, questions and upset players.
     
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    agree bcoz ppl just come to vote and then just leave everyday,
    however the ppl that actually play can only vote the same amount as the people just joining to vote
     
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    i support this. there is no need to see who is in the lead. especially not when its used to screw over others. This is a great idea :)
     
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    I like this it lets the player know which place their in with x amount of votes without releasing other players info about how many votes they have
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    Fully support.

    I'd also like to see /vote show your total number of votes out of the expected maximum number of votes at that time. So on the first of the month, it'd say you have 3/3 votes (or 4/3 if you vote right before and after monthly reset). This way you can easily check to make sure you're still on track without needing to check the date and multiply by three (I get very lazy). Every time the broadcast message goes off saying a voting site has reset, it could increment this value.

    I like to imagine that'd help new players as well, who may not fully understand the voting system at that point. Though there's always a good chance it just leads to more confusion.
     
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    On /classic, /topvotes wasnt a feature and it was nice for years without problems, now it is a big problem on new sb, get rid of this pp command, &2support
     
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    Support, fake votes are very annoying and can ruin that whole month for a person.
     
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    I agree with everything above along with all the reasoning. Major support on this one.
     
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    You do realise that the topvotes are shown on the voting websites?

    Taken from minecraftservers.org (vote 2):
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    Taken from minecraft-mp.com (vote1):
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    So even if it is removed in-game people will still be able to tamper with the official top voters because I believe these tables are updated within 10 minutes of the vote, where you don’t need to log in et cetera. I’m not sure if removing the command will make a huge difference, if any.
     
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    Yes. Drogo knows that. But those lists are easy to stay off of as they list everyone who voted. If you’re the 11th person to vote on any day, you’re not on it. /topvotes only list those that have logged in so when you vote you don’t know if you’ll be on it or not. The inaccuracy of /topvotes list is reason enough to remove it.
    It sucks that we have to go to these lengths. Ideal situation would be vote2 allowing people to vote for multiple sites.
     
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    i think there is also a technical problem with vote2. today it didnt let me vote, but after an reload the website let me vote again

    also the time zone of vote2 is odd. i can vote after 00:00 (european time) and it counts to the new day. at the other two websites the day starts at 08:00 for me
     
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    Even though this information is available it is less likely that someone will use this in spite rather than the in game command as it is easier.

    That being said, it is still an issue. It is just a shame that people go out of there way to target others in a hurtful way.

    Jealousy, envy, revenge, narcissistic ethics. They are all traits we have to put up with in our day to day lives from individuals, therefore it will be difficult to avoid these issue even online.

    Shame really.
     
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    I believe /topvotes has been changed. I'm typing it on the server right now and it doesn't show a list of people! Nice suggestion Drogo.
     
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    Thank you so much for taking the time to make a suggestion!

    Your suggestion has been thoroughly looked at, and we’ve decided to take your word! Your suggestion has been accepted.

    This thread has been moved to the Server Gameplay Suggestions Archive | Skyblock Forums

    Kind regards :)
     
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