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    Punished account name: craftwithabbie
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    Have you read the rules? Yes.
    Do you think this punishment was incorrect? Yes.
    Why should you be unmuted?

    Because I didn't start this as an arguement, nor did I submit any reports about the other party harrasing me still. Your team of staff have told me recently that contracts put in place to prevent harrasment that they claim wasn't working so they got rid of it, has allowed the same people to feel as if they can approach me like were best friends. Which isn't cool. I asked them to leave me alone.

    Regarding my appeal, a player called jumper was on my island and was asking what an invisible mapart meant/is. So I tried to explain that I'd recently been selling them as my discovery in the server seeing how noone else had sold the map trick before me, and kitty butt's in to try take all the credit claiming their all hers and how she found it allegedly more than two years prior. Despite carpentry tables not being a thing back then, and that she hadn't sold it at all right up until she copied me by listing "her own copies" of the exact same map, and she kept the same name that, I chose, to give it. She could have listed it as a glitched map, or, as , kitty's extra special map, or something unique to her, so she didn't need to keep coping me doing what I do but undermining me and denying me my credit where its worth.

    Kitty deciding to get defensive over me saying I sold it first here, makes no sense to issue me a report over. When what I said was entirely true and correct. I fairly told a player that was asking me what MY map was, and kitty tried to say I never discovered it here and bow it was all hers not mine.

    Which is so unfair.

    And then i get a 30 day mute. ???

    Secondly, legend has let me know that I shouldn't speak of player punishments in game, I mentioned about a player being warned by staff before as tbey claimed to have never been told off. And in the approaching three years ive known them, I know that's not true. I didn't think about ongoing punishments, which is what ledgendcrsft reminded me of.

    The summary of this, is protection of harrasment contracts got told to certain players they're stopping, and those players think they can start friendliness as if they never spent months,to years being hurtful towards me. I asked them to leave me alone, one player did Which Ill hold respect for, but kitty decides to get salty about it and starts a provoking arguement with me until she has a screenshot she can report and I'm fed up of it.
    I can't have my own opinion in chat without kitty getting defensive and turning it into an attack at me.

    all i did wrong was get upset when kitty tried claiming it wasnt my map to take credit over when it was and try to explain that she did in fact copy me by listing the same map, same name, etc.

    Please list any other times you were punished on Skyblock:
    If you know, tag the staff member that banned you: novbree. ThatGuyBrandon
    Do you understand and accept our rules and code of conduct? Yes.
     

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    Good evening Abbie, I myself will be dealing with this appeal since it was me who done this mute. I apologise for a bit of a late response to this.

    The mute has been given due to the ongoing situation and disruption to the server. Plus with your past history has resulted in this length of mute. Now I am grateful that you have made this appeal so that we can discuss this, and for you to listen to what we have to say, as well as us listening to what you have to say.

    Now again, there will be points I want to go through, as well as putting the suggestions you put forward yesterday to me in discord messages, you will also have to listen to what we have to say and suggest as well. So please bare with me on that one.

    The list as follows that I will be discussing.
    - Contract Breach
    - On going disruption to the server
    - Your suggestions (As spoken about in our message)
    - Reports in game

    These are some of the things I want to talk about with you, so we will start of with the Contract Breach, the contract is no longer valid, which does mean players can talk to each other in game, Krissy has told all players involved in this past contract that it isn't valid and to keep it civil in game, The continuation of arguments needs to stop. As I said earlier due to the fact this issue started again, along with the history already is what resulted in the length of punishment.

    The ongoing disruption to the server and the arguments in global chat, causes problems for everyone and those who just want to relax and play the game, there was multiple reports on this today alone 16/04/2025. Along with discussing of other peoples punishments isn't appropriate for the whole server to see, again that doesn't help any situation but put more fuel on the fire.

    Now for your suggestions,
    So here's a few suggestions I feel can help.

    If I post a report about a player issue. I'd appreciate the report to have an acknowledgement that it'll be looked into.

    Not a reply to deny the report. But to show willingness to help my side of it.

    If staff deem my report isn't needed to be actioned on. I'd like to know why. And have an alternative solution that doesn't just dent my support rq.

    If staff have issued a warning or a mute etc, could I be kept informed. So I know its been dealt with in a way that shows support.

    When I'm kept ignored I have no clue what's happening and that stresses me.


    These are suggestions that we can take into account and the staff team can respond back to this. Understand, this will also come back with suggestions from the staff team.

    Please note Bree didn't mute you, it was done on my request as the situation just kept going on, me and you had a productive discussion on discord to try get moving forward. and unfortunately it just started over again. Unfortunately this situation has been going on to long and those involved in it are all grown adults and we shouldn't have to deal with this, but. Here we are. Whilst I was talking to you today, you decided to unfortunately then go off on player Kitty and tell her she can have your map art and that you give up/don't want it anymore due to the situation. The situation with map arts itself and the copies etc, is currently being discussed as it is, unfortunately map art issues are a grey area at the moment.

    I'm asking you to work with us and listen to what we have to say and take it into consideration, I've been looking at this from your side, as a friend, and as a staff member as well. You do need to take into account there are rules that are put in place and need to be followed. You have said about wanting to have the contract back in place, as well as player Jane saying the same thing on your behalf. I personally think it is now pointless trying to introduce this contract to be back in place. Please note whilst the contract was in place, players kept breaching the contract and disregarding the rules that were set in place for this. All players in this had there part to play, weather that was big or small, it still contributed to where it is now.

    Please note to your suggestion about if staff has issued a warning or mute to be informed, We will only inform you that the player has been dealt with as the rest of the punishment is for the staff team and the player involved to know about.

    If staff comment on this i'd like you to listen to the feedback they may have to say regarding this situation and the past situations that have been going on.

    Whilst I understand you don't think /ignore will help in situations, it does help us and yourself in trying to stop this from continuing. With the length of time this has been going on, it seems you two can't be civil without arguing with each other. Players are able to talk and message you, and if you don't want them to, for the moment all I can suggest is you either do /ignore or kindly like you did, ask them "please can you not message me, thank you" if a player then choose to react to that in a rude way, then as I told you, screenshot it and report it, don't escalate it.

    Now for me to lift this unmute earlier then the date given, you need to show me you are willing to work with us, will try and stop with conflicts in game with these players and instead talk to us, or. More simply, ignore the player, if you feel like they are trying to wind you up, screenshot the chat, and report it to us. You have me on discord so you're always welcome to message me there for issues as well. Listen to our suggestions and feedback and show me improvement in game and in conversations as well. We will also listen to your feedback and what you have to say. Staff do not dislike you. We are here to help everyone as well as trying to play the game for ourselves. We want our community to all get along, and that does include you too.

    Please read through this, any questions you have feel free to ask and I or another staff member will get back to you on it. Have a think on this and we will go from there. Have a goodnight.

    Thanks

    Legend_Craft.
     
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    That's fine, it said novbree issued the mute/ warning.



    My genuine concern about using /ignore, is that it doesn't do anything to help. All it does is stops me seeing the people being rude to me in chat, it doesn't stop the people actually from being rude,where the rest of the server still sees it.
    It doesn't stop the petty behaviours. Like spamming my /ah sales just to flood my screen with their purchase notifications. Or repeatedly telling me that I'm unblocked to be their friends which I do not want to be. I'm not going to bother any more about selling my map because every time I advertise or talk about my trick to friends visiting me, kitty thinks she can straight up lie, and steal my sales.

    Like, I can use /ignore foe the rest of my life and that still won't stop their behaviour towards me.

    Me using /ignore does not force them to use /ignore, and they have multiple alts too, youre asking me to ignore, ALL of them, and yet theyre going to have accounts i dont know about thet they wont ignore me on and still uses to visit me.
    Ignoring people only works if its done both ways entirely.

    Had kitty ignored me the other day, instead of 'choosing to take offence and become,, defensive,," over me telling a player what MY map on MY island was, then she'd have had no reason to get upset when I explained to the player I was in fact the first person to list this for sale only to get kitty acting as she claims in defence, by forcing an arguement onto me that she could then screenshot, manipulate, and use against me. It's fricking predictable behaviour from her every time.



    I've had all of these players ignored for long term. Before, until people started messaging me things that were being said and shared and spread about me. I can't report it if if I'm unable to screenshot then myself.


    I didn't join the server with intents to talk to any of those players previously involved. Offline approached me as well as kitty, and I asked them to leave me alone despite the fact the contract has been voided it doesn't give them the right to start cuddling up to me. Offline was respectful about it and left me alone,,, after spamming me with friend requests and island invites.

    Kitty was more civil at that time, so I let it slide without much complaint.

    So when she suddenly flips out on me over claiming I wasn't the first to sell what was MY mapart trick, and she boasted about how she had the same mapart trick here for over two years, which doesn't make any sense seeing how it wasnt possible at all back then, and she kept arguing with me about me trying to explain to my friend on my island that my mapart was a trick I found and sold first here. Rightfully, the player that's communicating with me as a right to know this.

    I wasn't saying, kitty don't sell the same thing. I was saying that she copied me, by listing the same thing, but also with the EXACT Same name I choose to give it.

    She couldn't be unique and make it hers, she literally had to steal my idea and claim it was all her credit.


    Ao yes this upset me, but I Don't feel like this is nearly as bad as kitty is forcing it to sound.

    I wasn't rude to her I wasn't mean. I even said to her that she can have full sale over it and that I won't bother anymore simply because of how petty she got over my idea. She wants to profit by undermining my sales giving stuff away freely that I was about to make a sale on, then I don't care anymore. She can keep it all to her self and not let anyone else enjoy the server far as I care anymore. I destroyed the mapart shop for it. So its done for. Kitty can continue going round lieong to people that she was the discoverer, and credits are all hers etc, if it means that much to her that she has to file a fake report.

    So If you want me to /ignore kitty ill do so. But it doesn't stop her abuse and her manipulating chat into arguments about me. Because everyone else still sees the ongoing bs.


    You've had other players come to you on my side, they should also alert you that it's not myself causing the issues.

    I didn't speak to offline again after asking him not to because he respected my decision.

    Kitty lures me in with false kindess, only to then lash out at me in a way she knows will provoke me.

    Reminder, that provoking players into arguments is literally against the rules.

    I was involved in an argeument with kitty yes, but she entirely started this intentionally.

    She could have done what offline does, and ig ore me first or leave me alone and yet she literally cannot do either for me.?

    You want me to ignore her, I want proof that she's doing the same in all of her accounts.

    [Post note. Oblivion HD shares the same computer room as kitty, they share screens and accounts. If kitty is required to ignore me on all her accounts then this also has to include oblivion. Whilst this report isn't about oblivion. I would feel uncomfortable with ignoring kitty and her many accounts, if she's still able to communicate or interact through oblivions account. I hope this makes sense]
     
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    Sorry to include this, but jajane is the most trust worthy player here. If she is able to see that kitties behaviour towards me was disgusting, then I'm saddened that staff cannot. I shouldnt have to keep my guard raised every day against kitty in fear that all it takes is her to force a single reaction she can screenshot and submit as her proof to get me punished. Other players have also spoken out to me in messages or across the chat and in discord about this too.

    I'll add to this to also say that I do realise I should have simply stopped replying when kitty began to argue with me as that would have shown better behaviour from myself.
     

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    Evening Abbie, I will respond to this tomorrow as it will be my day off work :)
     
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    I apologise for the late response,

    I have already had conversations with Jane as she contacted me through discord. Whilst I appreciate the contact, we can't just rely on what people tell us. We also need to use the evidence we have and discuss it as a team.

    Whilst I understand the argument of people being /ignored "doesn't help because you can't see", It does help us, because we can see who is telling people what, you've all been told the same thing in this situation, and. Since this, I have not heard of any issues happening, so. I'm hoping that means, everyone is actually trying to respect it and move forward.

    Again if we hear people are talking about each other through messages with other's and are provided with screenshots we will act upon it.

    Players have backed each other up on both sides, so I can't really use that as a valid point, but. What I can take into note is how I haven't heard any issues with any players, including yourself.

    Now it's just more about moving forward and getting on. You have served 1 week of the mute already and if you keep going with how you are and keep improving I will try and see and talk with other staff members about the possibility of shortening it.
     
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    Bumping. It's been over a week since last response.
     
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    Hey Abbie,

    Sorry for the late response! I've taken note of the fact I've not received or heard of any problems over the last two weeks, so I will forward this with the staff team and discuss and get back to you soon!

    Thanks.
     
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    For all the difference it's gonna make now,, you may as well just mark this appeal expired already.. *sigh*:rollingeyes:

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    Will respond tomorrow, waiting on a response from someone else before responding here. :)
     
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    Afternoon Abbie,

    After talking with the staff team, I have decided to decline the appeal.

    I hope this can be taken as a lesson under the chin, and hope that it won’t happen again. As I’ve said before I haven’t heard of any issues occurring so please keep doing so after the mute is expired.

    Please note any continuation of this will result in being punished again.

    Thanks.
     
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    Thank you for creating an appeal, but unfortunately your appeal has been denied.
    We strongly recommend reading through this thread here for any future appeals!
    Thread closed and moved to Appeals Archive.
     
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