Allow Sand and Empty Bucket Trades

Well, donors have been stock piling sand from their kits, as seen from comments on the first page. I've never heard of someone building a falling sand contraption on this server from over a year of playing, and I do play quite often. I do not think this will be an issue really.

 

I do not believe your post was well thought out. This is a long response. Summary below.

I do not believe that legalizing sand trades will encourage more players to start island farming. Some people have already island farmed in the past. People illegally island farmed because that was their only access to sand and buckets. Those people used alternate minecraft accounts or worked together with a friend to restart spare islands. I'm not defending those people, just stating fact. I'm not saying to legalize island farming. Maintain the current rule that says island farming is illegal since people will keep trying to dig up extra dirt blocks.

Besides there was already a work around against illegal normal sand trades by converting the yellow sand to red sand then selling the red sand. Then the buyer could change the red sand back into normal yellow sand and place it on his or her island. This is a process legitimized by the mods of this server.

Speaking of mods, the current sand trade system is backwards. Mods allow the sand conversion and yet question how non donors got extra sand blocks on their island. This is foolish on the part of the mods. Clear rules on legal sand and empty buckets will let mods have more time to worry about other rule infractions such as monitoring chat and helping out scammed/griefed people.

Look, each island only gives 1 bucket and 3 sand. There are plenty of legitimate players with just one account who do not have access to money or a paypal account to buy donor ranks just to get more sand. Mob Arena gives many sand blocks per session and a few iron ingots, if you last long enough. It is a great way for players to get resources that were in the past only for donors. Because Mob Arena gives out sand, iron ingots, and mycelium (which by the way can be used as dirt), these blocks are no longer donor only. There is no reason to keep these blocks and items under tight control now.

We should allow sand trade. If sand trades/giving sand is legal: donors can sell off their stock piles; non donors can get their precious sand for cactus and sugar cane farms easier; non donors will have an additional income from selling their sand rewards from Mob Arena; and we will get to see a lot more interesting builds on this server. This will also help island builders sell off their creations easier. Islands to be sold will be under much less scrutiny by the mods. No limit on sand trade means no limit on placed sand which means no worries that people are buying islands just to collect on resources.

Same thing with bucket trades/giving buckets. We can help out more new people to the server who lose buckets all the time and don't have a spare grass block to buy more iron ingots. By being helpful, we strengthen this server community and we keep the new players on longer. New players will take the time to learn how to play and to like the server instead of quitting instantly. They may even participate on forums, donate to the server, and continue the helpful attitude towards the next group of new players.

Finally, legalization of sand, sand products, and empty buckets is the right step towards the compliance of Mojang's End User License Agreement. EULA does not allow servers to limit blocks and items from players who don't pay/donate. If this server can meet EULA then maybe it will finally update to 1.9+ and we get to play with some more fun blocks.

Summary:

Island farming won't be a greater threat than it already is.
Mod's have less to worry about.
More equality towards non donors.
We get to keep players interested in playing skyblock by not limiting them from the very beginning and then grow the server population.
We get to be helpful instead of forcing players to donate to advance their gameplay.

 

Just trying to teach people the reality of the situtation.

 

There would be almost no point to island farm if sand was readily available through trade. Same with buckets. I believe that island farming would happen less often in the long run.

Another point on buckets, there is a glitch or two that makes you lose your bucket. Sometimes if you drop a bucket, server says you can't and then gives it back to your inventory. But other times there is a glitch and you just loose the bucket. Also let's say you are gathering milk for a lot of cakes. If you fill more buckets with milk than you have open slots in your inventory, those extra buckets just disappear. The extra buckets are not dropped items, they are not forced back in your inventory with a server message, they are just gone. The server allows you to keep filling up buckets with milk too. I'm sure there is another glitch or so concerning buckets. If bucket trading was legal, then the restrictions on buckets would be gone too which may help solve bucket glitches. This will go along way towards keeping new players who do not know how to play SkyBlock.

 

Thanks to all the supporters. Hoping more people see this suggestion and understand how much sense it makes to allow normal sand trades and empty bucket trades. Let's stop hindering the server 1 thing at a time.

 

Reviving this suggestion because other illegal to trade items such as bedrock and wither heads have recently been legalized.

With sand, sand products, buckets, and dirt illegal, you seriously are blocking the progression of new players to the server. Each day there are new players asking about help for these items. This server has a bartering system, no actual currency. I understand sand and iron are reserved for donor kits, but then mob arena happened and these items have been available to everyone for months now.

Allowing players to trade sand, dirt, and buckets will help revive this server. It will add a new game dynamic and a boom to the game economy. It will help keep new players interested in building their islands.

 

Support, the points you made make real sense.