Global 1x Furnace to 8x Cobblestone Recipe (QOL)

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  1. JlX
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    This idea essentially make furnace the storage block for cobblestone (8:1) so we could store/carry more cobblestone similar to what other storage blocks do
    While I know hopper to iron ingots is not meant for storage (because of iron block) but a way to recycle resource and this suggestion resembles to it, I still think this can act as a little QOL feature for people who have a lot of cobblestone

    ^^^ Figured out that it was done for hopper limit change as a compensation for players with excessive hoppers after 4 months...

    EDIT: You can also take this as a solution to all current cobblestone problems
    (Inventory management)
     
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    Alright I get it some of you don't support this but... atleast leave explanations or your opinions here so I can have a better understanding as well as some discussions, like why is it bad or something similar, can't really get the detailed meanings from just viewing some "No Support" ratings

    Sure I can just put more chests for them or throw them off but then what's the point of this suggestion?

    Feedbacks are welcomed but with some explanations would be better
     
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    I am interested to see why people say they don't support this. Personally, this would help out my storage a ton. I have over two DCs full of shulkers full of cobblestone. Getting this down to 1/8th the size would be very nice. I've always been a fan of the compressed stone/cobblestone mods for storage, and using furnaces seems like a decent alternative.

    My main concern is the precedent this would set for future suggestions. People may want to then suggest that chests can be un-crafted. This could just continue downward where there'd be continuous suggestions to be able to dismantle other various blocks and tools. Assuming the server updates to later versions, there's also the risk of future versions providing alternative methods for destroying/recycling/un-crafting items.

    Adding custom recipes doesn't really take much time or effort, so it's mostly just the ideology of the matter. Which is why I wish the no-supports would give their feedback so I could better understand their perspective.
     
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    Yeah apparently it's a very common problem everyone would encounter

    I chose furnace because it's made of 8 cobblestone, without other additives and also to fit so-called "vanilla theme"
    Cobblestone is only item that have this problem so far since they
    • generated fairly fast
    • have very limited uses
    • is accessible since start of the game
    • is doomed as a waste item of ore generator mechanic
    Chest and other items are unnecessary to have an un-crafting recipe as they
    • don't use a lot of space
    • come as a compacted form by default (e.g wood)
    • generated rather slowly
    • have more purpose
    • traded commonly between players
    I wish they do too yeah

    Thank you for sharing opinions on this :heart:
     
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    I'm a fan of compressed blocks and it's very nice for storage purposes, I actually wouldn't mind if compression of cobblestone was added. My guess is the no supports are those who don't like adding non-vanilla features to the server since it's advertised as the original skyblock and people want to keep it as vanilla as possible. I can agree with that, I don't think loads of custom recipes or plugins is a good thing, but for a simple think like cobblestone storage I wouldn't mind something like this, and besides the server isn't totally vanilla anyways even just having random ores generate in a cobblestone generator is a basic feature for new players as well as old that isn't even vanilla that people don't complain about.
     
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    Glad to hear your feedback :)

    I fully agree on this, people generally accept the changes of cobblestone generator but some seem forgot that increasing need of storage of cobblestone can be unhealthy for long-term gameplay

    The early concept of this idea was once I got like 5-6 DCs of cobblestone and I'm not really a building guy plus most shops I could find are out of stock so I crafted all of them into furnaces to save space for other stuff, I've also thought using them as floor decoration but... tile entities can affect performance so I ended up using a couple of them to smelt items and having this idea came to my mind

    About custom features my perception is they're added either to fix flawed mechanics or provide QOLs (e.g undying/bonding glass) but not making the game less vanilla, without them some items would be unobtainable such as chorus plants, endstone, elytra, prismarine and cobwebs etc...

    The skyblock itself is vanilla YES but how it is played is already different from vanilla as economy, kits, crates and mob arena exist, a little addition like this is not as bad as people think IMO.
     
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    Well obviously yea sometimes Marcawn has stacks of cobblestone that turns into furnaces and whenever he's in need of cobblestone he could un-craft a furnace into 8 cobble or get it easily from another way.

    Just think this won't be necessary as resulting a neutral.
     
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    FINAL BUMP
     
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    i support this, i dont see any reason why not to have this
     
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    big support o.o
     
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    This was a great suggestion I hope it gets added :)!
     
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    I'm a bit sideways on this idea. Yes I like it for people who have way too much cobble and then they can sell the furnaces to people for less inventory space, but again it takes away from the survival aspect just that bit more. I like the idea but as Redstone said it could turn into a whole bunch of other suggestions which could make the server more complicated for new players that are trying to learn the server. Neutral for now, but all said it's a good idea. :)
     
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    Thank you guys for feedbacks :)
     
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    It's kinda funny that I waited 4 months and none of no-support has responded or shared their view...

    I'll explain my point more if asked.
     
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