Denied Got banned again smh

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    Punished Discord name & tag (e.g Name#0000): Dreamm14
    Punished Discord ID: 784121290889101312
    Punishment message: You were banned in Skyblock. | Staff disrespect, continuing after a timeout. You have not changed your behavior since your appeal and have been given plenty of chances.
    Have you read the Discord rules? Yes
    Do you think this punishment was incorrect? Yes
    Why should you be unbanned/unmuted?


    Okay so let me get this thing straight. I have seen MANY times people calling each other smelly and telling each other to go to shower without getting banned or punished there. Then all of the sudden I get banned? I didn't even say much. I don't even know why I got the time out. I still have yet to get the reason why.
    Let me give you the story. Person A was telling Trinity to go shower because her username says something about not showering. Person B Sent 2 gifs of rat showering and as a joke, telling that those are the mods showering. (at this point Frez was in the conversation) I only agreed with Person B as a joke. The only other thing I said was a sentence to Person B saying something like "be careful, the sb mods are really sensitive." because no hate and all but you guys really are. Then out of nowhere I get timed out for 5 minutes. (Person B hasn't been timed out. Just warned??) Then, Souly sent a emoji of laughing. I kind of took it personally and thought he was laughing at me saying that he is laughing because he got the power to mute people and I just got muted. So I gave him a piece of my mind telling him that he shouldn't be laughing at me like he is above me because clearly he isnt (not saying im better though). I reminded Souly that he got mad at me in dms for pinging him once and reminding him 2 times in a span of 3 hours of my muted expiration date. I said things like "be for real, you get mad at me for being a little mad because you didn't keep the 3d muted and extended it. your not perfect and you shouldn't laugh at me like you are great or something." Then I wrote another paragraph about something but I completely forgot. You can search for it. You banned me. At this time, Souly said he was laughing at Person B's gifs. Then Trinity pops out of nowhere telling me to stop talking and ill get punished if i talk about my punishment like when was that a rule did I miss something. Trinity told me to dm her and we will talk about it. I dmed her and instantly I got banned like i haven't even done something deep.. I ask trinity about it and suddenly she is saying she will not be talking about it and told me to appeal.
    Lets pause. Did she just tell me to dm her then ban me and told me to go appeal? I feel like that's a no no. You can't be telling people just to go around saying "dm me we will talk about it" "oh im not going to discuss your punishment." "appeal." You think your a queen or something for saying that?

    that was the story.

    Now why would I be unbanned?
    First, tell me why I got banned in the first place. I've been timed out, I told them what i felt after my time out, I got told to stop after my message, and I kind of stopped, didn't do much after. Then BAM banned. What possible was so deep for my ban? Why wasn't Person B not punished? Only warned? Is this biased staff? Guys and Girls, wake up. Theres people out there breaking the major rules behind the staffs back. There are people calling each other smelly, telling people to shower, and telling people that they are selling another player for a cheap amount as a "joke". What if theres a chance someone could get hurt by being called stinky or telling to go shower? Are you guys really going to ban me for saying these things but let people go for selling another player for worthless objects as a joke?

    Please list any other times you were punished on the Skyblock Discord: You were muted in Skyblock. | Think about what you send in general chat, this is your last chance to change your behavior. [3d]
    You were banned in Skyblock. | Homophobia, continues chat offenses, rude comments.
    You were muted in Skyblock. | Continuous miss-use of the channels, after plenty verbal warnings. 2d
    You were warned in Skyblock for: homophobic comments, please watch what you say. we want everyone to feel welcome and comfortable in this community, and that includes members of the LGBTQIA+ community.
    If you know, tag the staff member that punished you: Either souly, trinity or frez
    Do you understand and accept the Skyblock Discord rules and our code of conduct? Yes
     
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    A little bit biased in my opinion. Friends of the mods can call them stinky, go shower, and all those but people who aren't do that and get punished. To be honest, I don't think if the "popular" and the mods "friends" did the same acts, they would be equally punished as I just got. Clearly there isn't a really good reason for my ban. unreal :skull:
     
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    Hi Dream, I was the one who banned you so I'm the one who's going to be handling your appeal.

    First of all,
    You were timed out & banned due to the jokes you were making. While they were meh, you made comments that showed you were obviously aware these jokes were not okay. Furthermore, once your timeout expired, the first thing you did was come back into the chat and send a massive paragraph arguing with us instead of DMing a staff member. You were also told the reasons in the DMs.

    You made multiple jokes against Skyblock mods, and when you were timed out, you came back being disrespectful. The time out was to get you to stop (which the other player also did receive a punishment for their involvement), the ban comes off of the fact that you just appealed and got unbanned and have been doing nothing but pushing the limits, including already getting muted. You have been given chance after chance to change and was told on your last appeal that if you did act up, you would get banned again. It's really not that hard to not break the rules, as someone who used to break a lot of them, you put more effort into breaking them compared to just following them.

    Souly was not laughing at you and was laughing at AJ, sorry that you took it personally but it was not directed at you, so it is not an excuse for the way you acted. At the end of the day, the staff team are people as well and getting sent crappy paragraphs towards us isn't something we particularly enjoy.

    Again, this is not an excuse for your actions. There was a better, more mature way to confront your feelings & your issues. You could've contacted someone privately or made a ticket instead of causing drama and issues in general chat, but instead you decided to do that. You're also bringing up the fact that you're saying Souly is not perfect but getting mad over the fact the mute went slightly over, our mutes are not automatically undone and we have to undo them, so if you were aware that Souly is not perfect, why are you so upset over a simple mistake? I don't know what happened between you guys so this is all I'm going to comment on it, but I think that you could take a step back and re-evaluate the way you're getting upset over this as well.

    I banned you due to your staff disrespect, which you have continued throughout this whole appeal and in my DMs as well. I told you to DM me originally because I wasn't going to ban you, but after you continued to disrespect staff in general, I did. At that point, it needed to be appealed because it was discussing a ban instead of a timeout. I did what I was supposed to, so I'm confused on why you're acting like I'm wrong? What I did was not a no-no, and I actually did what I was supposed to. Calling people little names like you have been throughout this appeal is not helping your chances at all, I suggest you stop.

    You got banned for staff disrespect. You did not stop after you were told to stop and you continued. Person B was punished, but this is not an appeal for his punishment, this is an appeal for yours. Your extensive history and 12 day old unban where you were told you only had one more chance left was took into consideration when it came into your punishments. You have more history so your punishments will be harsher, especially since you know you are not supposed to be breaking rules the way you have been. If someone has an issue with jokes being made towards them, they are free to open a ticket, create a report, DM a staff member, ignore the player, or block them. If you know of people breaking major rules, you should report them. We cannot know everything that goes on, and using this as a reason to make your ban seem less is not okay either.

    It is up to the players and mods discretion for punishments. If a player does not report these jokes being made against them, we won't punish, but if we get reports for it, we will. You are stuck on the fact of what happened before your timeout, when that is not the main reasoning of your ban. The main reasoning of your ban is the way you were being disrespectful towards staff and arguing with us instead of trying to have a calm, mature conversation.



    Quite frankly, after the way you wrote this whole appeal and still continued to make little comments about staff, I don't really feel your appeal is genuine or worth accepting, I think you made this just to argue instead of trying to get unbanned. If you wish to discuss this, maturely, without name-calling, I'm willing to do so, otherwise this appeal has no point.
     
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    Hi, can you please explain and show proof of the "staff disrespecting" I did?
     
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    I am asking because I actually don't remember. I may have been wrong however I won't admit until I see the proof.

    Most of the things you quoted from is when I was telling everything what had happened. I didn't put a reason for appeal when I was explaining the story.

    I may be wrong for this and correct me if I am wrong but banning a person for a joke isn’t that mature as well.

    Like I said i do not remember calling people names or disrespecting people?
     
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    Also I wasn’t being mad that I didn’t get unmuted on time. I got mad because I mistakenly thought Souly laughed at me. I only reminded Souly 2 times to unmute me and souly is the one who got mad at me. I only then got mad after souly was being mad at me because it’s dumb how the mod will be mad at me for reminding him only 2 times. My mind just thought it was wrong for a person to get mad a person at a person because they pinged him two times. Meanwhile, the person who was muted would obviously be in a bad mood because not only did the mod let the mute go overtime, (i think this is a right to be mad at because the time promise must be kept and yoyr basically breaking the time rule right?) and then after i got unmuted, Souly got mad at me for reminding him two times which everyone would of at least done if they were in the same situation.

    This is not a reason for my appeal I am just stating your a wrong for calling me immature and I am in the wrong for getting mad at Souly.
     
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    Let me bump
     
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    Hi, I was busy today and I’m currently about to go to bed. I’ll reply to this tomorrow evening when I have the time to. You don’t need to bump your appeals.
     
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    Alright let me know ig
     
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    Sorry for the late reply.

    https://imgur.com/a/YmMyVRQ, here you can see the screenshots of what had happened. You came into my DMs and called me “weak” and argued in public, still continuing after your timeout and being told to stop. While this was not a major incident, I decided that since your behavior has not improved since your last appeal, and considering you’ve been muted already since then, that re-banning you was the best option.
     
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    Due to the fact of your repeated behavior & the fact you didn’t change after your second chance, I’m going to deny this appeal. You can try re-appealing in the future if your behavior improves.
     
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    Thanks for the reopen.

    I will explain my actions.

    First screenshot,
    "sb mods know what a shower is?"
    I was simply just playing along with the joke. I didn't think it was that deep and I simply do not mean to hurt anyone with just that message. Sorry if it did.

    Second Screenshot,
    "remember, their sensitivity is always low" (meant to say high) This might be a deserved punishment I should get but I always thought through my experience with the mods. I can get punished by this (got timed out) but don't think its a reason to get full on banned.

    Third Screenshot,
    Big paragraph. I took Souly's laughing personally wrongly. It was a misunderstanding, I now regret saying and getting mad after souly mentioned he was laughing at something else.
    The part where I say learn how to take a joke, I started typing before anyone said stop or souly mentioned that he was laughing at someone else. Which means since I was at my phone that time and I look at my keyboard when i talk, I couldn't see your message. After that I really stopped arguing about my punishment or "disrespecting" the staff.

    4 th screenshot,
    I was only asking why I couldn't continue talking about whats going on. I was just asking a question and don't think its a reason to get banned for.

    5th screenshot,
    "mods just overreacting imo" Like I mentioned, I was only wrongly mad and confused what was happening and it felt to me like you guys were punishing and going a little too hard for my acts. (telling souly a piece of my mind and confused)

    6th screenshot,
    the dms,
    I asked my reason for my timeout, which is ok
    I asked about what jokes I made, still innocent
    I told you your telling people to move around and around which you are beacuse your telling me to first stop, which ok fine I went a little over and I stopped. Then you told me to dm you to talk about it, which I did. Then you banned me and told me your not going to discuss it anymore. I got mad at that point because I think it isn't the best way to just tell people to go here and there because you can.
    Also, for your correction I didn't call you weak. I asked you if you were weak. My thoughts that time was that your just using your mods power to ban me because you could be a person who can't take a little argument. So I asked that question. Clearly a question and I did not call anyone any names.

    Now that I explained, theres only about 2 comments that deserves a punishment but in my opinion, not deserving a ban.
    My previous bans and punishments are completely irrelevant topics and reasons for this ban. It was mostly about homophobic reasons and I told you guys I will change on that and I'm not openly talking about that. I had no reasons to hurt anyone on that night. Even the paragraphs and jokes I've said, I was just trying to have fun with others and play alone. I only wanted to show how I felt and thought and I got banned for it.

    Does my explanations and reasons prove that my ban is wrong? Also if you are going to close this thread (unless I get accepted) can you please tell me and wait for my response? I don't want to ask you to reopen or appeal again if I have some more things to say.
     
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    Hi Dream,

    I would like to restate the fact that the jokes were not the reason for your ban, but the reaction to your timeout was the reasoning for your ban.

    While you may not think these were valid reasons for your ban, you were not reacting maturely to the situation and was arguing and being disrespectful. You could’ve dmed a staff member instead of causing that argument. Sending a message like you did does not do anything but make the situation more tense & stressful to deal with. We don’t try to punish players unless necessary, but with taking your history into account I felt the ban was the best option, since in the past you have not stopped arguments after being told to stop.


    Don’t play word games, you were calling me weak at that point in time.


    Your past bans and punishments are not irrelevant. In any punishment given to any user, every punishment is took into consideration. Your past still plays a part in all of this, and was considered when your punishment was issued.


    I’ll discuss the appeal with the team & let you know a final decision.
     
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    What reactions did i have for my time out? I seriously don’t understand, i don’t remember saying anything that deep to deserve a ban.

    I wasn’t calling you weak and i’m not playing word games. I asked you a question. It’s straight forward and make sense. You’re not my mind and can’t tell me that i’m playing word games just because you feel like it is.

    Please quote my reaction and the proper reason for my ban
     
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    Was this a sb rule I missed?
     
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    erm hi?
     
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    Sorry, I have been busy.
    https://skyblock.net/threads/code-of-conduct.137987/
    Point 2 in code of conduct :)
    I have already attached an album showing your reaction and have already stated the proper reason for your ban.

    After discussing with the team, we have still decided to deny this appeal until we can see a substantial change in your behavior. You have not showed any change since the first unban & we don’t believe that you will change following another unban. If you can show substantial change in the future on any of our platforms, an unban will be considered following an appeal. Please spend this time reflecting on your actions & how they may hurt others.

    If you do not have any other comments or concerns, this appeal will be closed & will not be re-opened for further discussion.
     
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    Thank you for creating an appeal, but unfortunately your appeal has been denied.
    We strongly recommend reading through this thread here for any future appeals!
    Thread closed and moved to Appeals Archive.
     
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