Denied Discord ban

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    1. Your banned account name: barn#0001
    2. Platform you were banned on: Discord
    3. Ban message/reason: N/A
    4. Have you read the rules? Yes
    5. Do you think this ban was incorrect? No
    6. Please list any other times you have been banned on any of our platforms: Many times
    7. Why would you like to be unbanned? Because I'd like to join the discord
    8. How will you prevent yourself from being banned again? I will try my hardest not to argue with anyone on the discord (the reason I was validly banned in the first place)
    9. If you know, tag the member of staff that banned you: Cyk753
    10. Do you understand and accept our rules? Yes
     
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    Is it possible for another member of staff to take over my ban appeal? Cyk hates me and this may effect my appeal.
     
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    Agent I got told you're practically running the team now, can you take a look at this please?
     
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    Not my ban nor am I “running the team.”
     
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    Cyk753 let me know if you want to be reasonable
     
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    The lack of understanding of your actions, the lack of detail, and the lack of any explanation of your actions in this second appeal led the Staff Team to believe that this is not a sincere attempt. You have to prove you are serious about rejoining the community.

    Calling me out is not an effective way to overturn a ban.
     
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    I apologise for my hostility but you have simply been negligent with my application. It’s coming up on the 9th month since I made this appeal with no reply from you, I think many would understand why I was fed up and aggravated.

    A further note; how am I meant to explain in detail now? This was 9 months ago. I cannot remember the specifics of what even happened.
    From what I can remember, I was arguing with someone, then you told me to stop and I didn't. I've already said that it was a valid ban, what more do I need to say?
     
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    You have trouble remembering your first discord ban appeal because you requested that it be deleted. Here is the summary: you asked that your appeal be denied because you refused to promise to follow the rules and stop fighting with other people. Acknowledging an issue is never enough to make true amends. In every appeal, staff look for players to show authentic remorse and make a pledge in good faith that they will observe the server rules and listen to staff directions for the future. Leeeroieee explained the choices you had in front of you. Follow the rules or be banned across all servers.

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    The full 2 pages of your first Discord Ban Appeal thread is here in the spoilers.

    Even though you asked for the post to be deleted, it is not removed from your own player history. Here is more information to further improve your memory. About the same time you were banned on Discord, you were banned in game for In Real Life Trading. And then your alts were banned because you tried to bypass that punishment. You messaged our Staff Manager over Discord to make a trade in game and you tried many times to hide and deny your misconduct instead of being honest. You attempted to appeal that ban four times. Leeeroieee gave you this message when you unjustly made a staff report on Kerahna.

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    Bans are not given because a staff member hates a player. Bans are given because a player broke a Skyblock rule, be it In Game, or Forums, or Discord. Longer bans are given for repeat offenses. Permanent bans are given when the Staff Teams decides that a player refuses to hold themselves accountable for their grievous rule breaking, when they are a danger to the community, and/or prove they completely have no remorse and will unceasingly break rules. At this point, you had been instructed twice by Leeeroieee, then also Staff Manager, that you may be permanently banned across all platforms due to your actions. Let us examine your activities since then.


    Forums:
    • 2 verbal warnings for highly inappropriate comments
    • a 1 day mute for communicating with another player you were warned to not talk to
    • permanent loss of ratings ability for using ratings to inappropriately retaliate against other players (which was the second time for you)
    • a 1 day ban for constant player disrespect
    In Game:
    • warned for making disrespectful comments towards a person you were in an altercation with
    • warned for disrespecting another player
    • muted for harassing a player
    • banned for reportedly scamming a player (you first tried to fight the ban in the appeal instead of trying to work it out with the player)
    • banned for being disrespectful and rude
    • warned and kicked for inappropriate chat
    • banned for soliciting In Real Life Trades
    Discord:
    • Numerous reports that you contacted people to make In Real Life Trades for Skyblock items.
    Server Shop:
    • You donated under another player's name to downgrade their donor status as a part of malicious retaliation

    The above infractions are why the Staff Team decided to uphold your ban on Discord and turn it into a permanent one. Each rule break does not necessarily count for just the platform it occurred on. And again, infractions are not just dealt with case by case. Players are not solely disciplined due to the frequency of their actions. Punishments are given based on the cumulative offenses each person makes. These actions, collectively, reveal your whole and true behavior. You escalate any perceived slight into a full on fight. You are especially aggressive and retaliatory when it comes to competing with other traders. You hold grudges and harass players for the long term. You completely disrespect and disregard staff members and server rules. You always fight the terms of the rules. You only claim responsibility as a last resort.

    This is a true description of your behavior not only of the last year. This is true of the entire 8+ years you have been with this Skyblock community. Proof of this is glaringly obvious by examining ALL of your past infractions on ALL platforms and especially in ALL of the appeals you have made. Below are the other appeals you have made. I post them here to aid your memory.

    It is abundantly clear that every promise you made to follow the rules in previous appeals was a lie. You continuously and unfailingly tried to cheat your way out of a ban first by arguing the ban was made on false premises. You have asked other staff members to handle your appeals because you blamed the banning moderator as being biased against you. You have tried to out smart staff members instead of humbly accepting culpability. You have made it a habit to create multiple frivolous ban appeals when your first one was rightfully denied. It is incredibility disappointing that you had the same immaturity level for nearly a decade.

    You always have the freedom to make choices which you then turn into actions. You must also face the consequences of these actions, especially for the infractions you never fully atone for. Repeat actions reveal who you are as a person. You only value your own greed. Your constant disrespect towards players and staff proves you are a hostile and vindictive person, out to get anyone you can in this Skyblock community. The Discord ban will remain permanent. Any further rule breaking on your part will result in a permanent ban across all Skyblock platforms. You will not get further warnings. You will not get any chances to appeal.
     
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    There is a lot to reply to here, please allow me time even if the outcome is the same, I wish to speak my mind.
    One thing I will say now though, “You donated under another player's name to downgrade their donor status as a part of malicious retaliation” is completely false. iAlex told me to buy a rank for someone in return for grass, no part of this was malicious and it’s upsetting for you to accuse me like that. I appreciate that it may look that way but not looking at both sides of the argument is not fair. I didn’t think to look and check the existing rank of the player. You can check the logs from the day of upgrade and see Alex saying to me “dont tell her it was me though please”. I thought it was alex just doing something generous. I understand that due to my own mistakes my word doesn’t mean much anymore but honestly I never meant any harm by doing the upgrade. It was most certainly not malicious, and I don’t know how it could be retaliation as I honestly dont know what happened in the first place in order for me to even retaliate to anything.
    In the logs it will also show me messaging her and laughing because I found it humorous. I still to this day do not see it as anything as a minor inconvenience, although annoying and should not be condoned, it was not intentional on my end, and not is against the rules.
    This stuck out to me and is why I have only replied to that statement, please again allow me to reply tomorrow and address everything else, even if the outcome is the same I’d really really like to speak my peace.
    Much appreciated,
    Brake.
     
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    I am going to break down your response for you and explain how it is completely inappropriate.

    Here is the background situation you claim to be ignorant of:

    _iAlex and SpicyLilPink had some altercation. Then _iAlex decided to escalate the situation by deranking her. Then he mocked her further afterwards.

    You should have recognized that this was suspicious behavior. I am sure you are aware that other people's ranks were downgraded in the past. You could have said no to the deal. When you chose to follow along with _iAlex's idea, you became a willing co-conspirator and thus share blame for the end result.

    That was not a prank. That was incredibly mean to take away the services they already had available on the server. That was a clear abuse of the donation function and a huge waste of the Staff Manager’s time. You say that what you did was not a "not against the rules” in order to justify your actions, when in fact this sort of behavior will never be tolerated on the server. You have no right or excuse to deny other players their ability to access the game and their privileges.

    You entirely fail to understand that all Skyblock rules are based in respecting the server, other people, and having the common decency to let them just play in peace. Therefore any show of disrespect towards another player is breaking THE RULE. Examples of harmful actions are expanded in the Code of Conduct and are a definite part of Skyblock rules for all platforms. Here is a screenshot of the start of this section.

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    _iAlex has been banned for 2 weeks. Part of that ban was because of this incident. You should take the time to re-evaluate how you contributed towards another hostile act against another player while you are working on that response. This is just another valid example of despicable behavior in your long history of infractions.
     
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    I honestly thought alex was just upgrading some grey bean and being generous. I’ve never checked anyones rank’s before upgrading them and this was just another case of it. I agree it isn’t fair of me to laugh at her miss fortune as I wouldn't want it to happen to me, but this really was not a deliberate act from my end.
    I’ve upgraded people in the past who have said “don’t tell xxxxxxx it was me”, so its not fair for you to call this despicable behaviour.
    I don’t know how I was supposed to know alex and this person were having an argument or had bad blood before I upgraded. He came to me asked me to upgrade some random person and I did. It was never malicious and I never thought it even could be. I agree it’s definitely a waste of time for kera and anyone else dealing with it but please check logs because I truthfully just thought it was a random person and I never meant any harm.

    But also thank you for allowing me time to reply to the rest of your original response, I have been very busy recently but I will get round to making my response soon, thank you v much.
     
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    Before anything, thank you for allowing me to reply, and giving me generous time to do so. I'll go through everything I haven't responded to from your original post.
    I agree, I had completely forgotten about that previous appeal and that's my fault.
    I wrongfully denied all allegations and I can see how this appeal seems ingenuine from your perspective.
    I truthfully cannot remember the situation that you mention with Lee, did he respond to my original discord appeal? Or is that something he said elsewhere?
    Unfortunately I cannot see any of the images you have posted as it just says , I would very much like to look at the screenshots you have uploaded though.
    I don't know why you're being so hostile to me, I understand that I have been wrong many times but saying "Here is more information to further improve your memory." feels like you're suggesting that I am the Devil and that I am lying to your face about me not being able to recall this. I do not have good memory, I am sorry.
    Yes, I incorrectly messaged Kera instead of someone else I was trying to IRL trade with. And I tried to come up with a story to cover my tracks. (I can't see the message you're talking about that Lee said as it just says for me again so I am unable to familiarise myself with the situation.)
    I agree that in the past I have been very pathetic when it comes to accepting blame in my appeals. I have failed to accept any responsibility for my actions on I think every time I have ever been punished since I joined the server in 2012. It's obviously something wrong with me and my behaviour, being defensive to the extreme and instead of trying to develop or really change for the better I have just been simply a f***ing nightmare to deal with. But saying this, I do not think I am a "danger to the community", but I do agree that up until now I have had ZERO remorse for any of my actions whatsoever, hence my extensive ban history.
    From what I can recall one of these warnings in game were for saying something along the lines of "ajaculation", a deliberate miss-spelling of the word ejaculation. I understand that the word is inappropriate but at the time of punishment (and maybe still now?) the word I miss-spelt was not even on the filter. Whilst this isn't really a valid excuse for my behaviour it's less serious as my other ones. (In my opinion).

    Again I cannot recall all of these things I have done, and there's not really an excuses for my behaviour, I dug myself a hole. Although I have not been warned for anything (other than this accusation that I was willingly involved with de-ranking a player) in a long time (again I have no idea when or how long it's been since I was last warned / banned) I can see why it doesn't prove that I am any better than I have been in the past.
    Whilst I agree that my ban appeal has been pathetically long, I'd like to remind you that I started playing this server when I was 10.
    Again "here to aid your memory." is just being rude for no reason, it's unnecessary of you to be so hostile towards me and treating me like the devil. This is why I suggested that you hate me, because from my perspective you're just attacking me.
    I think you have been inconsiderate to my perspective throughout this appeal. You have it set in your mind that I am this horrible person that is out to get everyone. realistically you don't know what I've been through in my life and what I've had to deal with. It's hard to turn a new leaf when everyone consistently shits on you for things you've done in the past.

    It seems like I have pushed you guys too far, and it's only dawned on me now. Not being unbanned is fair. The only things I have shown the staff team is the worst version of me and I can't expect to be treated differently from how I've acted. Sorry for wasting all of your time on numerous occasions.

    Please delete this thread if you do not wish to say anything further.
    Thank you.
     
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    As I've already stated, in my first appeal I was being stubborn by refusing to promise to you to improve my behaviour, this was a mistake but at the time I felt like you were doing it because you wanted to hear me beg you to get unbanned to boost your ego, and I thought you were a power hungry and treating me unfairly.
    In the screenshot of the actual offence I committed I was again being stubborn and arguing back after ignoring your comment telling me to shut up.
    In the screenshot Lee clearly says that if I were to lie one more time to a staff member then I would be punished harshly, I cannot recall lying to you or any other member of staff from when Lee said this, but I certainly haven't lied in recent times.

    I do not believe anything I can say will change your decision to permanently ban me. So please delete this appeal.
     
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    Again, I say this to you:

    It is unfortunate that it took all this to happen for you to realize this. If you truly would like to change, all it takes is some commitment on your part. It will take constant vigilance and a lot of self reflection and help from friends.

    At this point you cannot afford to slide backwards. You must especially not disrespect people, not fight with people, or offer/perform In Real Life Trades with people. You will be permanently banned on all Skyblock platforms for any rule break on any platform, no matter how minor.

    Your ban appeal has been denied. Deleting your previous appeal was a mistake. This appeal will not be deleted, but it does not have to be public. Instead, it will indefinitely stay here so that you can refer back to it when you need to.
     
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