Hello Everyone, As previous you may seen that i ask what is the best labtop What is the best laptop to buy?? | Page 2 | Skyblock Forums I decided to scratch that out because it wasn't something I need or looking for. So i'm deciding to build a PC soon and here is my list System Builder - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core, GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS, H500i ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker and I'm wondering what is everyone's opinion on this? Any feedback would be much appreciated.
Uh if its for minecraft thats overkill but if you're playing other games thats pretty good. Just make sure you have and ssd or hhdd, but mainly a ssd.
Warning: Next gen Ryzen is coming out on 7th July. There will be cheap CPUs like 3600X which will be on par or potentially beat current generation Intel CPUs in gaming with their IPC increase. I strongly suggest you wait 2-3 weeks till then. Here's an edited version: System Builder - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core, GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS, H500i ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker Your RAM is expensive but if you really want that GSkill look, go for it. No you do not need 3200MHz even if it's a Ryzen CPU, 3000MHz is good. Samsung SSDs are very overpriced, yes they're good but so are a lot of other SSDs. The one in the link I sent is an NVMe SSD which has far higher read and write speeds than a SATA SSD like the 860 Evo, for a lower price. Your PSU is the most overkill thing ever. You will never need 1000W unless you're planning to do SLI, which is stupid unless you're crazy rich because it is unsupported in most games and has poor scaling. You can go for Corsair TXM if you want better reliability but it doesn't seem needed. H500i is an expensive case that is in my opinion stupid. You're paying significantly more for 2x LED strips; which you can just get a H500 and buy 2 strips yourself. You can also just get the P350X case which looks nice on its own.
Great, but I would highly recommend to wait until july to get 3rd gen ryzen processors. the 3600 alone has better single core speeds than any ryzen processor to date, and will crush intel processors at the same price point. Another note: you really want an m.2 drive if you want good boot/load times and amazing game preformance. I made the mistake of buying a crappy ssd that worked well, but is even now slowing down quickly. I personally recommend the HP EX920 1TB or for a bit more, the XPG SX8200 Pro NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB. Both have amazing preformance/price, and the capacity is amazing. You might want an external drive for other files, so i would recommend the Hitachi HUA723030ALA640 3TB, which is also amazing price/preformance/capacity. The h500i is a solid case, and I wont disagree with you there. the 2080 ti is solid definitely, and hard to compete with the value at that price point. Back to the processor... I would recommend the 3600, but you could go for a 3700 or 3800 if you want more cores and a bit more speed for a bit more price. It is entirely up to you; but I would recommend getting a processor that can work well with your $800 GPU, so maybe go for a 3700. The OS??? you can get a windows 10 pro OS for like 30 bucks on buy Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM CD-KEY GLOBAL in scdkey. im gonna agree with KingFaris10 on the ram. A better motherboard could go a long way. Amazon.com: ASUS Prime X470-Pro AMD Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 DP HDMI M.2 USB 3.1 ATX Motherboard: Computers & Accessories could get you better overclocking and looks for just a bit more. hope i helped a bit
I would disagree with a few things in moearnings post above: NVMe drives (I assume you mean NVMe by M.2 since M.2 is just a form factor) are not needed let alone wanted. A SATA SSD is perfect and most consumers do not notice the speeds of an NVMe drive over a SATA drive; including in game loading times and boot times (there's many tests online that support this). This doesn't mean I'm not saying to get an NVMe though, as currently prices of some NVMe drives are at the same level as SATA drives. Again I strongly recommend A80 over the ones listed since it's cheaper and performs amazing; One of the top value NVMe drives out there. RTX 2080 does have something to compete with; the 1080 Ti. The 1080 Ti has almost the same performance as a 2080, but used 1080 Tis go for $500 compared to new 2080s at $700+. I personally downgraded from a 2080 Ti to a used 1080 Ti due to the insane value. The motherboard in general is not the best for overclocking, you'd be looking at MSI B450 TOMAHAWK or A-Pro for good VRMs. However, since you want to go for the RGB/looks, going higher in ASUS lineup still could be better so I don't actually disagree here. I can agree with the choice of either 3600X or 3700X; but this just comes to a choice of will you really be utilising all 16 threads. Most games don't utilise more than 6 threads, and the few that do probably won't utilise all 16 threads.
Good point. I would argue that it is noticeable, but agree that it is not necessary. However, the 2080 has ray tracing, as well as improved deep learning, which can improve fps. Although not many games support ray tracing at the moment, it will most likely be very useful in the future. Also, some leaks suggest that a 2080 super, with improved specs, will be released next week for the same price point as a 2080, and the 2080 will drop in its price point. I would wait until then to find that out, and possibly get a boost in performance.
DLSS has been out for a while now, and all implementations of it are garbage. Normal AA looks far better; with DLSS just smudging and making texture quality worse than no AA. I know many who don't use it for this reason. Ray tracing, like you said, has not got much support at the moment. Within the only 3 games that did, Metro Exodus was the only one that implemented it in a good way. It will take many many years before ray tracing comes to AAA games and is implemented correctly. Ray tracing also hits FPS hard in these AAA games; making it not worth it unless you have a 2080 Ti. My final point on this is that ray tracing is completely unnecessary. After watching Youtube videos of other peoples opinions and forming my own opinion with my 2080 Ti, I did not care about ray tracing and I've never thought on a game "I'd love nice reflections and lighting". Others may disagree though. I agree that you should wait; but I'm almost certain prices won't fall because NVIDIA GPU prices almost never fall.
Your build is one hella expensive build, but it's overkill lol. You should ask yourself are you going to do intense gaming otherwise I'd scale it down a bit. As others said you can wait for the next generation of Ryzen processors to come out. I made this build, as it is similar to yours if you were to get it immediately. System Builder - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core, GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE, 200R ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker I'll run it down: I changed the CPU because I feel like you're not getting your money's worth for the power. I swapped it for the i5-9600K. Granted it is a bit less in terms of performance, but it's near to the Ryzen 7. With that I had to change the motherboard as intel and ryzen have differet motherboards. To be honest I think the motherboard I chose and the one you got is about the same, not sure as I am not an expert on those lol Replaced the Storage as it was unnecessary to have two storage units. I found one that has 512nGB and is an SSD for around 50 bucks cheaper (I added the two storage units together and it came to be around 135 bucks. of course this is an estimation). Again not a huge geek but I feel like this would suit you better I replaced the GPU for the same reason as I did for the CPU. They're both pretty great GPUs but comparing the RTX 2070 and the 2080, they're near despite the RTX 2070 is less performance but the margin is small. I also replaced your power supply with the same wattage for about 19 dollars less. Lemme know how this build goes. Not a nerd on builds fyi Edit: Ok so I found out the storage is a HDD, not what I wanted lol. So I switched it to a 500 GB. You're not gonna get a 1000 GB SSD due to how expensive it is
i guess, but waiting would be so much better maybe, but sometimes a cheaper ssd could deliver much worse preformance. the 2080 is still much better. and the wattage is wholly unneccessary, 550W suffices well
Here is my temporarily revised PC list: System Builder - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.6 GHz 12-Core OEM/Tray, GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS, H500i ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker I explains some of the components that i choose, PSU: reason why I still have 1000 W is because in the future if I want to upgrade or add let say another GPU I have enough power for that. Also I choose 80 Gold instead as its less than 80 Plat and just a small range of percentage differences. CPU: Waiting till 7/7/2019 as this is one of top performing CPU as everyone know AMD is stepping up their game. SSD: Specific choose Samsung 970 Evo as it is very consistent reviewed for being fast and good boot time Cooling: Choose water cooling as it well suited for over clocking But I am still very open to feedback as anything would help and I do lot of research and evaluate which one I think would be best.
Join /r/buildapc's discord. I'm an active member there; there will be plenty of knowledgeable people to help you. I disagree with your revised list; especially the Samsung SSD. I own Samsung 850 and 860 Evos and then got a SiliconPower A80 and I will never go back to Samsung. All brands like these produce reliable solid SSDs. Look at MX500 for example.
The ssd you chose is great performance, but only 250gb? for 100 dollars you can get a 1TB ssd for only like 10%-20% reduced performance. and the CPU is awesome as well. Maybe a bit too many cores for gaming, but it will keep you secure in the future. the PSU i disagree with, as SLI/Crossfire is becoming obsolete, and many games dont support it or do so badly, but does act as an insurance policy if you do need upgrades. great list tho ----------------- also, I'd keep my head up for the 2000-series super cards that might release soon. it could be awesome for your build and i have been using a hdd for my games, and it does load them slower but not terribly slower, so if you want the ssd for just boots that works perfectly
Yea I don't understand why a 1000 W would be necssary tbh I changed the Storage as it was HDD turns out lol the 2080 is better yea I know that but the 2070 is also really great despite the small difference in terms of performance
There is no price or ratings for your cpu but from what I am seeing on few sites is they're gonna hover around $499. So that brings the total to about $2,037.9 Also with that kind of Graphics I don't see why you would need to add a second video card as the 2080 is overkill for a lot of games. Only benefit it gives is more fps with the cost of taking more space, using more electricity (you don't want a PC that's gonna use a crap ton as that would be bad for your electric bill) and a higher price upfront. I'd recommend removing the 1000 watt power supply as it isn't not needed as Moe said and replacing it with a 550-700 watt supply. Samsung 970 is great but there are great options as well, like Kingston. With the new AMD processor, I would wait and see if anything new does come up with the processor, like a potential defect or an issue. In the mean time the other ryzen processor or the other one I pulled up are great! Overall this build is overkill
The last message from archerexpert777 I completely agree with. Your revised build is utterly awful in my opinion.
Thanks for all the feedback! Now on my revised list I know I could probably change the following The SSD to a Silcion Power A80 512GB nvme The PSU to a Evga SuperNova g3 750 Watts 80Gold The GPU to Geforce rtx 2070 windforce (as Archer said there is a small difference in perform when I was looking at the stats of both the 2080 and 2070.) The RAM to a DDR4 - 3000 (again since its a small gap between 3200 and 3000) If these aren't the only changes I could do, what can I also change?
the CPU maybe? I'd wait 2-3 weeks to see how the new AMD processor is doing and what people think of it. Generally it's a good idea to wait for a little bit to see how a new product is doing and see if any new issues come up. You wouldn't want a new cpu having various defects that could potentially harm other components as that would be devastating since you spent quite a lot of money and time to get those components. Its up to you though, if you really need it then yea take it. Otherwise it seems the build is overkill for most games out there
Love the change. What resolution and refresh rate are you even trying to play at though? And are you playing games more demanding than Minecraft lol. Only thing I'd change in that revised list is check if TXM is cheaper, G3 can be loud.
