Your thoughts of LGBT couples

I don't want to get into this but hun, sex between people of the same sex is unnatural but the love feels right

 

i have nothing at all against it
love is love, I don't think we can choose who we fall for, and what gender.
they're happy being who they are, so let them be
It will be weird or seem not natural for other people.

I've had discussions with my friends and family about this topic, one of my friends said "Its disgusting" and "I don't get how people could be like that" then someone from my family seems like they are against it too, it did annoy me.
It also annoys me how parents disown their children because of their sexuality, or how friends start having a problem because of the persons sexuality.

I myself have liked girls, and if I ever told anyone IRL they would most likely not accept it.

But yeah like I said I have not got anything against it.

 

That is the case for me, me trying to ignore it for years because of my religion broke me apart and made me into a erm... player. I started to become the sexist towards women and thought that they were only objects and I had no remorse for breaking a girls heart. That is when I decided that I don't want to change myself for my religion and God loves me for who I am regardless of who I love (And if not then I don't regret loving who I do) so I came to terms with myself, turned my back on my religion and as much as I wish I could control it at times, I can't help being gay. Don't get me wrong, I love who I'm inlove with and wouldn't do anything in the world to change that and I love Destiny with all my heart but even when the times are tough, rejection by the few friends I have in real life, the name teasing and the abuse people around me put upon me, being gay is a huge weight on my shoulders and being straight would be so much easier... If I could choose I would of choose to be straight ages ago and saved myself most of the trouble I've gone through. But I guess in the end I'm with my amazing boyfriend and future husband, so it isn't all that bad.​

 

I have no problem with gay/lesbi/bi people, I don't exactly support or hate it.
It's just the way some people are, so yeah. But for a fact, I'm straight kthx

 

Where are you getting that statement from? Because that's stupid.
If they didn't want to be gay, they wouldn't.. simple.

 

I think my views are pretty apparent on the situation since I was quick to passionately defend someone who lost a lot of friends because of their sexuality.
Believe it or not, I used to be quite homophobic myself until a girlfriend of mine told me she was bisexual. At this point I realized "wow this has had no affect on me in any way. Why do I care?" Down the road I ended up finding myself attracted to men just as I was to women and came to the conclusion that I myself was bisexual, and eventually decided that I've never had any sexual experiences, I'm probably more bicurious than bisexual.

All of this said, I'm a very avid defender of the LGBT community in case you were unable to deduce this on your own. At the risk of this sounding like a "look at me I'm progressive" cry, this is despite my religious views. I'm a Christian myself, but I'm one that believes Jesus befriended sinners and treated them with love as he would anyone else. With that I have no reason to be hateful towards anyone in the LGBT community.
It is also because of these religious views that I've decided regardless of how attracted to the same sex I am, I'll never actually have intercourse with one. Just felt like that'd be an interesting detail to throw in.

As a final point, I think it's absurd to say that your sexuality is a choice. I never woke up one day and said "You know, I really wish I found men attractive. I think I'll start doing that." Think about it practically, why would a person choose a lifestyle that leads to loss of friends, loss of respect from peers, in some cases suicide, etc? There's so many credible studies that suggest the exact opposite is true. Here are a few sources:

Homosexuality is Genetic: Strongest Evidence Yet : Biology : Nature World News
Which links to this:

Cambridge Journals Online - Psychological Medicine - Abstract - Genome-wide scan demonstrates significant linkage for male sexual orientation



Biology and sexual orientation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BBC News - The evolutionary puzzle of homosexuality

Edit: for the sake of humor, I felt it necessary to include this image:

 

.. if I could be bother Googling a facepalm pic I would, up until 13 I was pretty much straight, I say 13 because that's when I learned, up until that point I liked women, and had girlfriends I cared for. But it wasn't until I matured that I realized the process was wrong, I didn't like females anymore, I liked the company of males. I had the choice, I made the choice to choice male because it felt right to me. I could have easily chosen a girl if I wanted, of course saying this I'll be called bi-sexual even though I'm not.

Humans have been called 'Gods perfect creation' we can learn and teach ourselves and adapt to anything, then they say a man lying with another man is sin. We chose to sin, not born to sin. It makes no sense for a human to be born gay or straight, when we're both, we're born with no sexual orientation, of course we're born to be attracted to females due to mating and desire. You're pretty much asexual until you decide, you chose what path you want to follow. Before a gay person identifies as homosexual they first need a homosexual experience. Why is that? If they were born gay? Also if people were born gay, that's something different in the person, therefore you're saying homosexuality is a disease. If you say it's not a disease you just contradicted yourself.

 

I never said it felt wrong to date girls, I just preferred males. No? But humans crave sexual actions, so one way or another a lot of girls would experiment to crave that, they make the choice to.. not because they were born that way.

Everything in life is a choice, besides a few things, namely gender! The rest is 100 choice.

 

I'm Bisexual, I have been since I was 11. I always knew there was something different about me, I am raised up a Christian, and I believe in all parts of the bible. Yes, thou shall not lay with someone of the same sex. I believe that its true, yet, I am who I am, and I cannot control how I feel towards a female.
I support LGBT, and will never not support it.

 

just saying thats the old testement and was old news. After the new testiment came out the old testiment was used to show what the world used to be, but most of those rule/ laws no longer are to be followed.

Any ways my opinion on this subject without going religious Science in its purest form doesn't allow organisms unless your a starfish to reproduce unless its with a male or female... And there has never been a human that reproduced with its same gender sucessfuly or naturally...

Also I just love seeing 12 year olds debate over topics the can't possibly understand. They don't have the understanding that their opinions/ views on their "sexuality preference" will probably change this stage of I'm gay and i'm 12 is a stage of confusion its completely natural for you to be confused, but eventually you come to realize things we can't even try to make you under stand it comes with age.

 

i dont like all the labels, just love who you love and let others love who they love
for me, its as simple as that

 

I completely support LGBT. I don't see why it should bother or concern people who aren't in the relationship. "They can't reproduce." You don't love to reproduce. It's like saying that the only reason anyone is romantic or happy to be in a relationship is actually just there for the soul purpose of reproducing. No. You love because you're in love. I don't understand the mentality of those who don't support it. That's irregular. I know some won't agree with me but, please, don't be mean about it.

 

Since this is about speaking from your mind and nothing else, I surely will comment.

Before I write anything, I should prolly set this thing straight (huehuehueheuhehueheuheueheuheuehuehue puns).
I value people, not sexual preferences or some other stupid s*** that might make some assume.

I suppose you can call my standing neutral.
I don't care what you are, I really don't. I care about it as much as I care about the Grammy's, and that's not a lot.
Be with whoever you want. You can love whoever you want. You can be whoever you want.

That said, I *personally* just find it weird. It's no secret that it's not the norm, and highly frowned upon.
It's something really difficult discuss, therefore, I'll leave it for now.

What I DO have an issue with is the struggle for the right of marriage.
To me, marriage is a tradition of eternal engagement between a man and a woman.
As a catholic, that's what a marriage is. Regardless of what anyone else believes (yes, I know this last statement is defensive, but keeping it open for discussion won't bring anything. It's my view and nothing you can do to change it).

People say: "oh, but they have the right to get married too". It's an understandable claim, but it isn't to me.
As an individual, I can't do anything about it. There are sooo many movements that have given the rights for LGTB to get married already, so yeah.
But then people want the church to get involved aswell? My church.
Now, that's when you go to far.
Get into a relationship together, I don't care.
Love eachother, I don't care.
Get married through the government, I don't care.

But trying to force the church into it? That's when you take it too far.
It becomes as disrespectful to the religion, as what people interpret the church is towards LGBT.
That's not what marriage is to me.
Like, honestly. Even our Pope accepts homosexuals and all that.
That should be enough for people to take a step back, and respect the progress.

To wrap up.

I'm an open minded person.
I don't really care what you do, who you are in a relationship with or who you build a family with.
As a catholic, you want respect? You better show some aswell and not play the victim card every chance you get.


#LetTheHateTowardsReligionAndFreeSpeachCommence

 

Oh, and if it my post is a bit... erm, all over the place, then never mind that and look at the context

 

Why label yourself as anything though? I don't like all these labels, because who knows if you'll change your mind?

Anyway, I'm fine with both. Do what you want, no?

 

Eyyy, I actually got a positive rating as the first one. No h8

 

Since I was alerted to the thread, here's my 2c:

Everyone has a choice as to how they choose to live their life, including both homosexual and heterosexual individuals. This is what I firmly believe in. I feel however that in recent years, the push by homosexuals has encroached into the rights of all in society, including heterosexuals (who still form the vast majority of the population), to the point where it's taboo to state that one believes that homosexuality is wrong. If the ethos of the homosexuality movement is equality and universal rights, then the rights of the majority of the population are certainly being stepped on to make room for a minority of individuals. This is completely against democracy and the basis for most governments in the world.

Just from a medical perspective, homosexuality is either a choice, or not. The reason why this is important to distinguish, is that if someone chooses something, they need to face up to the consequences of their choice. If one chooses to rob a bank, then they may be caught and have to face the consequences of their choice (ie, jail). If one chooses to walk down the street naked, they have to face the consequences of embarrassment, loss of dignity, arrest etc. If however it's NOT their choice, then society should be more accepting (the same way we accept other individuals in situations outside their control).

Although the literature has swung back and forth over the issue, the latest thinking from multiple trials is that homosexuality is not genetic (Eight Major Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality Is Not Genetic | RedFlagNews.com). To quote the pertinent results of the study "The same-sex attraction concordance between identical twins was only 7.7% for males and 5.3% for females—lower than the 11% and 14% in the Australian study by Bailey et al conducted in 2000". Which means that in twins where 1 was homosexual the other was homosexual in less than 10% of the time, which in 2 individuals with identical DNA, is very low. Nonetheless, these trials fail to take into consideration early life factors which may occur before a person's earliest memories such as sexual assault, PTSD or abuse.

Another interesting read summarising over 10,000 scientific papers (from both sides of the fence) on the issue: Summary of scientific findings on homosexuality | what does science say about homosexuality?

 

But everyone deserves the right to be married, people shouldn't have to fight to get married because some one is clinging to a book written by 'God' thousands years ago. A man laying with another man is considered a sin, correct? But didn't Jesus die on the cross for all our sins so we could live a sinless life. Yet people throw the bible in your face whenever you do something wrong. And this is why I have such a strong hatred for religion as its not peaceful, it causes a great divide as humans slam their opinion and fairy tails into everything, and people who are religious will be offended by this very statement, but I could care less. I'm just doing what religious people do on a daily bases to those who refuse to be corrupted by it.

Whether the couple is male/male, male/female and female/female everyone deserves the right to be married, as marriage is a test of love, nothing else.. it's love. I don't need some crackpot old man telling me I cannot love someone because we happen to be the same sex, it's dumb and selfish. There shouldn't be movements of LGBT people, people should just accept it already, it has dated back for thousands of years, it's nothing new and we all know a lot of popes have done the very thing they say is a sin, but for some idiotic reason people cannot accept change, despite humans being so great at adapting. It's segregation, something that the bible tries to end, is what you do. LBGT people should not have to accept the fact progress is slow, progress should have already finished!

Out of all what you wrote, the last sentence is the most hypocritical thing I have ever seen you write, Akrill. Religion in general is stupid and shouldn't exist, it's plaguing the earth with violence and extreme segregation, as well as had it's foot in the cause of a lot of wars. Instead of trying to ram the bible in my face and call me a sinner maybe religious people should respect what I believe. You may believe in some mysterious figure who created the earth and then wrote a bible, but I don't and maybe that should be respected but nope, that will never happen. Trailing of the dumb religious aspect, which is what this entire thread is as the two cannot co-exist without religion being brought into it.

But the fact is why should gay people not be allowed to marry in a church, what makes the church so special? It's not like the God figure reached down half naked and touched it, as he hasn't done anything for the world at all. Gay people deserve the right to be married, if God didn't want gay people, then why did he allow the feelings to exists even more if people are born gay why would he let a flaw like that exist when he was all so mighty powerful?

I'm laughing.

 

Where did he ram the bible down anyone's throat? He said he doesn't think churches should be force to hold same-sex marriages. As avid a supporter of LGBT as I am, I agree with him. Asking every church to hold gay marriages is basically saying "hey, will you do the exact opposite of what your religion says for one day?"
All of this said... I highly doubt many same-sex couples care to be married inside of a church regardless. Christianity forbids what they're doing, I'm sure they'd much rather just get married in a court or something.

While we're on the topic of hypocrisy, by the way, I'd like to point out this sentence:
You may believe in some mysterious figure who created the earth and then wrote a bible, but I don't and maybe that should be respected but nope, that will never happen.
Oh, okay. Respect is the issue here. Well, not only did you talk about his religion in one of the most disrespectful manners possible by calling God a "mysterious figure," "fairy tale," etc. you're also telling him that every church should be forced to explicitly go against their beliefs for the sake of people getting married inside of a church rather than a court or any other place that will hold a wedding. Isn't that a bit disrespectful to his beliefs in it of itself?

You also continue this by arrogantly saying that God (which you don't believe in, so I'm not sure why you even said this) has done nothing for the world at all. Very respectful.

Finally, the reason religion is brought into this thread every time is because religion influences a lot of people's opinions on the situation. This thread asked for opinions on the situation. These people are explaining why their opinions are what they are. Nobody is trying to force their religion on anybody.

 

I never said he did, I said religious people do, just like how he defined the gay group by a select few, what makes a church so holy? A church has no beliefs, in fact I could right now say my house was a church and people would believe me as it has no grounds that church was even built on 'sacred soil' but that's irrelevant. 'God' is a mysterious figure, nobody knows what he/she looks like besides paintings by people who were clearly on drugs. And that's how most fairy tales are started, but that's what I believe and because of that belief I get utter hell from Christians, but when the shoe is on the other foot I am made look like the bad guy.

What has 'God' done for the world? Think on it for a minute, with all the recent crap, while cancer needs to kill of humans, deaths need to happen but why does he just sit back and watch his creation die because he decided that he's going to create a disease which causes great pain, then instead of showing that he is real he just watched as wars start. Why worship someone who doesn't care what happens? He let his own son die to forgive all past and future sins.. so why are we supposed doing wrong? It's stupid, the bible is so full of plot holes it hurts to read.

I mean, who really cares if two men marry in a church, fireballs wont start raining down and blowing us up, 'God' has done nothing prior to this, so why would he start now? haha he wont, nothing will ever happen. Nobody will ever see him, as you cant see what isn't there. And if you cannot see how this is related to the topic at hand, then you're not as smart as I thought you were.