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    I guess I'll start this off with a disclaimer that if it's not possible, I'll delete this post or ask a mod to lock it or however it's supposed to work.

    Description
    Basically, it's like /trust, but you can only break permissible blocks. It's main use on this server is what the command itself is, to create a work force, though it can be used creatively in other ways (eg. to create a VIP area where as not just anybody can access that location, but also the VIP's can't access your whole island.) There are two main reasons why I'm suggesting this. 1: It is hard for some people (usually non-donors) to reliably make grass; and 2: there is so much sitting unused machines/land that could be producing goods that could contribute to the economy. I, myself, was in the 2nd reason's situation. My trees were just sitting there, so I hired a few people to chop it for no other reason than both the one's stated. Fast forward 2 months and I've employed 15 people, with 8 currently, to chop wood. I've created a company that provides wood for a few shops as well as sell at my own island. The reason I'm suggesting /worker is because I believe this could be a beneficial element that could really change the economy (if it's possible) of Skyblock; increasing the circulation of grass and goods, as well as adding a new level of relationship that fits between visitors and trustees.

    How is this any different from /trust?
    I could be wrong, but I'm sure there are a few others out there who would like people to work on some stuff at their island, but they fear of being griefed. It was, and currently is, the same for me. And even though with the 15 workers I hired, only 3 have griefed (as an example of there's more good than bad), this would allow more big island owners to confidently offer jobs and reduce the amount of griefs and "mistakes" that happen to them. (mistakes meaning, "oops I accidentally broke your quartz, glass, and enderchest and everything else that was valuable") Of course, one workaround from this is to build an island that contains nothing of value but the work you wanna offer, but 1: not everybody has alts, and 2: no one wants to build an ugly island:) sorry if you island is all cobble. I don't mean to call it ugly.. :/ but I guess I am.. please don't hate me...

    Function
    It would work just as /trust does. /worker (add, remove, list, clear) And I imagine it with a gui the same as /settings, laying out what items/blocks they can interact with. /worker would allow the affected to place/break the block/item they have been given permission to. Again, this would sit between those who are visitors and those who are trusted, in terms of application.

    Problems
    But with as I just suggested above, I can see it being too tedious both for the programmer and user, as well as being too limiting, as it's not flexible to distinguish unique workers on your island. Though, I think for the 2nd reason, that's not as big of a deal as it is letting 100% of your island being trusted to workers. And also another reason why this whole thing might be unnecessary, is that, honestly, I can only see it being used to hire people to chop wood, mine stone, and farm for the employer (though farming is non-existant in the economy since we have /warp animal).

    I guess that's all I have to say about it. Sorry for making you read so much. And, thank you for taking your time to read and consider. Let me know your thoughts! Again, if this isn't programmable-possible then I'll delete this or ask a mod to lock this or however this works. Thank you:))
     
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    it would be cool but you can just /trust some1 and private all of your chests and even if they were to grief you mods have advanced tool like log block that can be used to recover or figure out if anything was broken or stolen
     
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    I think this would be very helpful if you hired people to work for an island, but I think there could be different worker classes for unique workers
     
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    I think this idea is very unique and I like the concept of it. I was just about to suggest a /worker settings command but it seems you already have that figured out. Maybe instead of having a GUI of every block that a worker can break/place, there could be a place within the GUI where you can place blocks of the things that they can break/place, kind of like placing blocks in a chest.

    The only thing is that it is still possible to grief with this command. A worker that you hire could start placing blocks all over your island which is still classed as griefing. Maybe there could be something like the WorldEdit wand where you can select a certain area by left clicking one corner and right clicking the second corner to create an area to edit. Within this selected area the worker would only be able to break/place blocks that you have chosen in /worker settings and outside of this area the worker would not be able to do anything. The worker and the island leader (or island members, I don't think it matters) would be able to see red wool on the outskirts of the selected area that the worker can build in and visiting members would not be able to see this red wool.

    I hope my ideas makes sense, if you have any questions about it just ask and I will try my best to clarify!

    Full support.
     
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    Idea is good.
    But...
    Requires calculating power and has to be developed first+has to be safe.

    I think staff wont have the eggs to support it.
     
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    Support, if this could work, I think it'd be wonderful to add, it'd lessen any worries about being griefed or looted.
     
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    Support, if this would be possible to add it'd be a great addition to reduce griefs and loots.
     
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    Support, the main reason I don't hire workers to chop trees, mine cobble, etc for me is because I have trust issues as I have been griefed and looted alot way back then so adding it would give me a chance to MIGHT hire a few workers or so.
     
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    Even though I don't hire workers, I fully support this idea as it will encourage players to interact with each other and make friends with no large fear of getting back stabbed.
     
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    Support! Like bert said, I have trust issues too, and if I want someone to destroy something, I would usually do it myself because I can't be on 24/7 to watch that person.
     
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    Support,

    I always keep untrusting people when they take breaks, because I don't want them to grief/loot Island, having /worker will help.
     
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    Honestly, I really like the sounds of /worker. I think it’s unique and beneficial. This could reduce griefs and looting, and could be beneficial for when Shop Owners hire helpers to own a shop, etc.

    Would this just be an Island Owner command or can all coop members use the command?
     
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    Yeah this is exactly my solution for my island currently. I have anything that can be privated, privated. /worker would just protect your island in general. For example, I want to place scattered gold blocks in the sky or something, but if it's in a random assortment, I won't notice any of them getting griefed. So I'm currently left with building in an orderly fashion that would limit the chances of people getting away with griefs. I'm sure plenty of people have valuable blocks out in the open like quartz, dirt, diamond ore, etc.

    Yeah this sounds way more user-friendly to work with. And the world-edit wand suggestion sounds even better, but only if it's not taxing on the server and the one programming it.

    Same. I realize I'm not the one doing the work so it's kind of unsettling for me to ask someone to work there butt off for something I'd like to see.

    Yeah I imagine it being as heavy a decision as /trust is, where you should let the leader decide. If there is just one GUI to rule them all, then maybe the leader can set what blocks they can affect, but the leader + coop members can /worker add people. But if like what BillOP said, where each worker has a unique GUI specific to them, which is a great idea, then there would be an issue of who's the workers actual boss, in terms of who can change his GUI or whatnot, if we extended the power of /worker to all co-op members. So it'd more safe if just the leader had it. But, I also know some islands section off areas to each co-op member and it could get quite redundant if a member is running a business on his plot of the island and has to bother the leader every time.. but I guess that's what we currently do for /trust so maybe it'll work out. Lol sorry I go back and forth on both sides of the fence, I kinda do that :/

    Thank you for your time and thoughts everyone:)
     
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    Support, but it may it may take a long time to actually be added though if it is accepted
     
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    Support, I think this is a great idea and a way that can make the community more proactive. If this command is possible to make this could be something new that Skyblock.net can claim first and moving one step forward to becoming a popular and unique Skyblock server.

    P.S. Also I wouldn't mine participating in this if someone offer me a job :D
     
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    Support, I only have like 3 people trusted on my island, and 2 of them are mods and the other an alt, I have a phobia of people destroying my island. Hope this is possible.
     
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    Bumping !! Also, thought I had replied to this. Full support boba
     

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