/warp casino discussion thread

historical example? bru it was j more fun to play without people spamming and complaining about casinos. Players have joined and progressed through luck, cause thats really all casinos are no?

 

There you go again. Arguing someone else’s post and asking for proof like you believe they are trying to invalidate you.

And now you just click disagree on everything, even when it makes no sense to do so.
You invalidate yourself.

 

Do you have any sources to back up your definitions or is this just a personal concept of what debate means?
First, as my source explained, a debate can be a discussion, you mention it "might" be a discussion but not the other way round, thats a logical incoherence.
Then you mention that a discussion is not a debate, this is plain incorrect since as my source confirms a debate is an argument or discussion, so the correct way to say it is "a discussion might be a debate"
The correct syllogism would be:
"A discussion might be a debate.
Any discussion expressing different opinions is a debate.
Therefore all the discussion expressing different opinions are debates."

Very important edit: Drogo, remember debate has 2 meanings in the dictionary and you are arguing as it only had one

Thats your personal perception and im pretty impressed you assume the authority to make statements about my beliefs and intentions without quoting something that backs it up.
I dont see anything negative in argumenting when thats the intended use for forums and the tread, i think anything stated here should be able to be proved, thats just logical, no one is expected to argue especulation without base.
Also you couldnt be more wrong, i actually agreed with some of erics points and if i asked him to elaborate was further examinate that point, if it thought was invalid i would just ague against it with facts like i did for other topics.

Also, i have replied to every single comment i disagree taking into account everything that was said, so you accusing me of lack of sense in that area is ludicrous when you havent even replied to the consecuences your suggestion may bring, but you have disagreed with every single one of them.

I should remind you your suggestion is almost imposible to police, damages the servers economy and decreases revenue for the server. all points you have failed to suggest any kind of solution while still reacting disagree.

 

Yes, a historical example or any other way to back it up, i thought we were talking facts.
Fun is one of the least objective words in the entire language. That couldnt be more subjective.

Also making profit with casinos being the owner is little about luck, its about administration and prize coherence, any person knowledgeable in casinos can tell you that. Any correcly runned casino will make money to the owner given enough time and plays. This was a point already discussed at the start of the tread and both Grep and Drogo mentioned it at some point.

 

I have intelligence and an ability to think for myself. Even if it could be thought of as a debate governed by the rules by which you seem to think. It would only be that if others had agreed. What gives you the right to come here and dictate how this ‘discussion’ should be conducted?
Absolutely nothing. So again THIS is NOT a debate.

if you want a debate then go make your own thread and go and sit there lonely.

 

Am i missing something, or is skyblock history not made by the players. history will always be bias based on who its coming from. Fun is also subjective, of course it is, this is a discussion thread, im not here to say anything objective.

Regardless of "administration and prize coherence", its luck based. No duh the casinos goal is to profit the owner, but the people playing the casino need to be lucky.

 

I never dictated it, i mainly sourced The University of Oxford, you can ask their right to them if you want. Just answering your question.

 

Of course you did. You demand proof and evidence from everyone, else you deem their opinion invalid.
Just leave before you embarrass yourself further.

 

This thread is a historic example

 

KHAL DROGO IS THE GOD OF THIS THREAD!!!!!

everyone SHUT UP and listen to him

 

Sorry but you forget logic, i ask for one of those 3 and its pretty standart to expect that from an opinion, even more a suggestion, its not about me at all, i still not see even one suggestion, considering even the loss of revenue to the server, much less anything else.

Also you have taking the liberty to deem my arguments invalid before for only moral reasons. If you have the freedom to do that i have the freedom to consider yours invalid too for my own reasons, the only difference is the use of proof and evidence as you say.

 

Sorry Kuriboh_kun, who am I to tell you what to do. You feel free to continue to embarrass yourself.

 

what has this thread become

anyways stream harry's house now

 

My commitment to this thread has come to a close. The bickering continues, just as I anticipated before it happened. For far too long, this subject has been bombarded with gambling and casino-related information. It's acceptable if Noobcrew claims that Minecraft administrators have reviewed and accepted their request to allow casinos with specified regulations for drawbacks, then it is perfectly fine. Gambling violations should be handled by Minecraft moderators, not Skyblock staff. This is permitted even under American law. If you hold a different opinion, you should know that Minecraft, not a server like Skyblock, would be fined or punished. To demonstrate, if casino managers are told to deconstruct their casinos, some will do so, while others will be dissatisfied and resist. What lies next? Bans? The redstone limit elevated? Or is it necessary to clear all redstone equipment from the server? Kits, crates, farms, and the pricing of a variety of farm-related supplies would all be altered. 1:2240 for Cobble? Let's just make it 1:100 rather. Carrots at a ratio of 1:256? Let's simply make it 1:20 rather. Perhaps TinyDuckie's immense carrot stockpiles would become the new currency on this server? I don't think so. Let's put this debate to rest right now because it appears that casinos aren't going away anytime soon. ​

 

It’s been established that the server can legally allow the running of casinos, but I’d be interested in your thoughts on whether it should. You mentioned earlier “someone may develop a gambling addiction because of Skyblock” so you are aware of the risk it poses to the children. Are you comfortable with that?

Keep in mind that while many games offer “loot boxes”, I don’t know if any of those are age rated 10+ as Minecraft is.

 

This thread has been derailed due to the more 20 posts that are like an essay long. I doubt anyone is going to read all those lol.

 

Sadly, yes it has.

 

Honestly, I'd love to see all Casinos shut down for like 1month. Just to see the impact that would have on the server, and I run 9 casinos.

 

Classic never used to have them and we had so many more people playing that server.
If I was new coming to this server now and seeing all the casino advertising in chat, personally, I would be looking for another server.

I'm curious Boarder , what controls do you have if you are offline and your casino's go out of stock?
I see many, that seem to have no way of preventing play or even indicating if the output dropper is empty.

I'm guessing that there are many cases, where an advertised prize is not actually in the dropper which is essentially a scam.

 

Not in my casinos. I use books as coupons for prizes and if my chestshops (where people redeem prizes) are out of stock people mail me and I restock them. However, if anything still goes wrong I refund people and add grass for the inconvenience. But yes classic worked well without casinos and Im curious if skyblock would go better without casinos aswell.