Staff Purge (.NET)

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  1. Satan
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    Staff is corrupted. Staff can be bribed. Staff can punish people for nothing and make up bans and get away with it. Staff is inactive. Staff is not helpful. Staff is not worth being staff anymore.
    I have an idea to start a staff purge, meaning to choose the complete new staff members for the server, give other candidates a chance. There are so many people that would perfectly fit into Krissy's supermod position and do the actual job instead of coming on, saying a few words to a few people and leaving 5 minutes after. Or at least replace Moopuff who has been inactive for almost 2 months now. Server doesn't deserve such bad staff members and promoting fresh new staff members would be a perfect idea in my opinion.
    I'm not stating that the entire staff team is horrible, in fact such helpful people as Lemonade or Incomposed are required for the server, but starting a purge would help understand who are worthy becoming server moderators and who are not.
    How is it going to work? Basically, all the staff members that want to stay here will have to re-write and post their applications. They shall be treated as common candidates, just like any other people who are applying. This will help understand if community wants these people to do the job or kick them out of the party house. The new staff members will be chosen 2 months after the announcement of purge and all the past staff members will be demoted. During that period of time between purge and it announcement, the current staff members will continue to perform their server and forum duties.
    I created 2 polls about staff members, check them out:
    Straw Poll
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    Bump for Incomposed's fathers.
     
  3. Lycel
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    Moopuff isn't a mod, Satan.
     
  4. Satan
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    That's a good thing.
     
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    Oh, and on your idea, well there's a large amount of trust involved in moderating. It's not just a matter of promoting new moderators, it's about trusting them. That's one of the many reasons we have trial moderators. And besides, there's only 2-4 people that are even close to being a trial moderator at the moment that I've noticed.
     
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    Cool story, girl, but the top of the staff is not worth being staff anymore. They're just really inactive and unhelpful people, they already reached the pinnacle, so what is the point for them moderating anymore? This is why we need new staff members, a lot of people deserve to moderate the server.
    Also, candidates can apply for any rank, starting from trial moderator to smod. So don't even worry about it. Previous staff members may also re-apply, if you read the thread, you would've noticed that I mentioned it.
     
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    I love how Krissy_ is dominating the straw poll.
     
  8. Satan
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    Not really, right now Frozen, Lemo and Krissy are dominating it. Others are left in the corner.
     
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    No no, of course I read the thread; I'm not a total peasant. I'm not complaining about getting rid of people who hardly use their position or deserve their position anymore, I'm saying I don't see many (many, of course there are some) people who could make mod around the place at the moment. And no way could someone skip trial moderator, if that's what you're suggesting.
    The biggest flaw in your suggestion is that Cyp is the one who decides the staff team, now, and in your alternate staff purging reality. Surely if he didn't like the staff, he'd get rid of them and change them. Which he does. So he'd pick the same people, presumably.
     
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    I don't know, there is just so many roasted staff members (not pointing fingers) right now, that the fresh new start for the staff team would be perfect. And yes, I don't decide anything, in fact regular players like me don't decide anything even if we post suggestions. This is the problem, but at least this thread will help understand what community thinks of certain staff members through the straw polls.
     
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    It won't work. Simply because all these mods have practically been mods on the server for a long time and they will have outstanding apps, qualifications and ultimately experience that would probably outshine new applicants. Apart from that demoting pretty much all the team is a time consuming process with little benefit because you will have to

    find new mods to fill spaces... something that is harder to do that it seems.
    Since you used me as an example may I remind you I mod several servers, along with being supermod on 2 servers, plus I like other mods I do have irl things to do like university and study which take up my time. I have not been as active on net as org but you do not see that because you do not play. When I have come on net and said hello than left was a) lag because of low data which happens or b) its late at night and i always like to check in before bed.

    imo if I was doing such a horrible job I would have been demoted. Yes there are deserving mods who should be smod, but that doesn't mean I didnt earn my ranks on each server. I have slowed down since I began because of certain commitments. Mods like lemo are doing a great job no doubt, frozen is doing well.
    But you only see your little view and I guess that is your deal. I will go back doing what im supposed to now.
     
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    Uh, you may be a great mod, but you don't play on net anymore, trust me because I know that. You're mostly dedicated to the org server where I'm banned so I can't analyze your activity there, honestly I don't care about the second server. If you're so busy irl with university then resign on the net and let others do better job than you. If you're modding several servers then resign on the couple of them to dedicate more time this community. It is better to do nothing than just do a bit.
    My view is immense apart from yours as I'm regular server player and you are staff member. You are not able to adequately conclude what server is required in as you only moderate and help players.
    Don't be so arrogant, there are people who are active, experienced and well-known on the server apart from the pinnacle of the staff members. They will manage the server well and even better than you. Also, finding new moderators is not such an issue, just lurk around the forums a bit, plus all the current staff members may re-apply during the purge.
     
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    Only problem with a purge is, having a decently trustable staff team is hard enough. Purging most would require all the newly promoted staff to be top notch before they join or they will be screwed over in the game.

    It's actually not as easy as you think being a mod on this server :p you go on, you kick for spam and everything, but you also have tons of players msging you to be middle man, spawner issues, lockette issues etc.

    Lol I don't talk much in chat as many players already msg me in pm the moment I log on. But being staff is about how much you do to enforce the rules and help make skyblock a better community.

    I have been on daily but honestly you can't just say "______" is a bad staff because they're inactive. A couple of staff were out at vacation. Maybe summer school issues. Keep in mind we were all once players and we gave up our time to help you out. We have a life outside of minecraft and so do you guys. After a while inactive staff do get demoted.

    Honestly the polls are now more of a popularity war on the forums .-. From my point of view at least
     
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    The reason you're so filled with the messages and help requests is that majority of staff members are inactive or live in the rare timezones. This is also an issue and all the staff members must also be chosen by the timezone to guarantee that there will be at least 2 staff members online at the time.
     
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    I don't think there is a perfect server where there is always at least 2 staff on. XD there are staff in different time zones though which is good.
     
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    You can't expect a purge within a day; you need a long, long time to earn trust from Cypriot. It's been suggested numerous amounts of times, yet Cyp's system of moderators is not bad. A lot of the moderators have an inactivity notice, or at least told Cyp directly.
     
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    People who are already moderators do their job well enough, in my eyes who cares if they're inactive, they do their job when they can and they have life to deal with. People say "there taking up space on the staff team" but yknow the space is unlimited so they're not really taking up space <_>

    As for the new recruits, sure go ahead knock yourself out, but I really dont think, from personal experience, a lot of the people who have mod applications don't really know how involved it all is (unless if they've had experience already)
     
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    Staff team isnt going to ever be perfect and neither am I. All i can say is im staying on this team and the other servers as long as I wish, as long as I am not demoted and always doing the same thing until told its wrong by the admins. You want a purge? It isn't going to happen.
     
  19. TheCarrotThief
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    The staff team has really always had inactive staff members, at least from what I could see. A lot of the staff have IRL things. You don't decide the staff, Cyp does, and picking mods isn't as easy as picking an apple off of a tree.

    Have a good day. :heart:
     
  20. Satan
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    Well, barely anything suggested on forums is going to happen, so your point is correct.
     

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