[SKYBLOCK SHOP] Item Price Changes

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    That's something you'll see in most online games that have a community influenced market and in-game item MTX. The shop prices simply don't match the community made values and not everyone wants to interact with other players (for example by selling a GC for grass). I don't think this is a bad suggestion however there are only a few (6-7) listings that should be reviewed. I don't think it's necessary to constantly tag Krissy just because you don't agree with her rating.
     
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    Krissy explain your terrible reasoning please
    Dexuby no we have every right to know why she disagrees considering her public position
     
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    Drogo agrees that there aren't too many items that need review.
    Krissy is being tagged as she is the only one that seems to disagree with this and being staff, her opinion is considered to be that which matters the most, hence Drogo is seeking greater understanding.

    Drogo understands that it's not a good look for the server, that these two girls have paid far more than they needed to for shop items.
    However, staff indicating that it is ok, is a far worse look.
    Drogo isn't suggesting Krissy is suggesting it's ok. Drogo knows Krissy well enough to highly doubt she is of that opinion, but with nothing more than a disagree rating this is the message that has been sent.
     
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    I get that but tagging her and asking once should suffice. You have to keep in mind that moderators don't have more influence on suggestions than normal players. (Unless it's something that affects their moderation duties)
     
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    Maybe some clarity is required on staff comments and the weight they carry.

    Drogo has always been of the opinion that staff speaks for the server as they are it's representatives.
    It seems that Krissy disagrees with Drogo's comment, that this trade by a player would be considered a scam. This is something that a moderator would rule on as is their duty.
     
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    A simple no support on something that other players deem as scamming (which goes against the servers rules, put into effect by moderators) deserves a little more than a no support emote IMO

    (edit: I also agree that not all items need to be changed, but there are def a few that need some loving)
     
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    It's not that easy since staff members are also players, we are not hiring third-party people to moderate the server.

    While some players may deem it as scamming it's simply wrong and everyone who knows the definition of this word should know it. I already explained that it's a completely normal thing that you'll find in a ton of online games (MTX items being "overpriced").

    I'll forward this thread to Noobcrew because it's his decision in the end.
     
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    Thank you for bringing this suggestion to light Dex. I do agree that not all of them need reviewing, but items such as 10 grass for $5, the diamond pickaxe, enchantment table, etc. I believe do. Items such as an Elytra and beacon seem a little bit more reasonable to me than the 10 grass payment.

    Yes, I do understand that's how all games work with pricing and it's not suppose to match I do get that! However, some of the prices do seem a little too high for what is being sold rather than an in-game selling. These prices were also made years ago, so they could get updated to get closer to the value of what the community is now! If the prices were to match it would make it pay to win so I do see your point.
     
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    I'd agree with you if brewing stands and pistons were more expensive than 10 grass blocks, that in itself is a contradiction when items you can get by doing basic grinding are more expensive than the literal currency lol. You don't need a player-based market for that one to not make sense
     
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    I haven't seen pistons on the shop and the brewing stand was planned to be way harder to obtain because entering the nether was supposed to require a specific challenge to be completed.
     
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    Thanks Dex.
    Hopefully he understands that these suggestions come from players looking to improve the server and the morale of its players.
    It did start to run away and quickly create a bad look for the server, but Drogo’s concern at least, is for the kids spending their pocket money who later learn the true value of what they just purchased.
     
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    Mods don’t have influence on these things, but they are STAFF of the server. That means they represent the server. They must not represent the server well. For example if I were to go on a work trip to a gold mine(I repair equipment). And I showed up drunk and high. It would not look good for the company. A lack of reasoning, is the same look.
     
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    I think represent the server may be a strong word. Staff obv have their own opinions (as they are players too - like Dex said), but to some degree the way they act does shine light onto the way the server is run.

    edit: not to say that the sever is run badly or anything, just some food for thought
     
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    Yo literally nobody owes you anything. People are not obligated to explain their personal views to you. The world is not subservient to you.
     
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    I wholeheartedly disagree.
     
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    Drogo doesn't believe she owes an explanation as to why she disagrees with the suggestions as she should be free to do that as a player.
    But a moderater, disagreeing with what Drogo suggests is a scam, i.e. a violation of the server rules, that is something that is judged by moderators and requires more input. Because as it is now Drogo feels that a moderator has potentially said it is ok to sell 50 grass to greenies for a $20 giftcard.

    Drogo suspects, that Awesomolocity and Queen might be discussing different disagreements. Drogo feels one requires more info, while the other does not.

    While Dex has stated that it is clearly wrong and Drogo agrees with that. It is not really a developers position to rule on it so Krissy's indication as to whether this is a scam or not is still the strongest telling factor in this thread.
     
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    You are such a legend Drogo :heart:
     
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    So the cost of grass was changed. It's now 50 grass for $4.50. Still only about 18% of what a player would get selling giftcards.

    Pick axes and enchanting tables are still the same. :headbang:

    There have been a couple of recent sales of grass. Drogo will just monitor shop and alert players of what they could be getting for their money.
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