Global Remove /daily GUI

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    Make it giving player reward directly and display cooldown in chat message
     
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    Removing the GUI would make it easier to automate the process and I don't think that's something we want.
     
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    But kits don't have GUI?
     
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    But those are something people pay for. And some also have longer cooldowns.


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    Doesn't make my point less valid. It's also way more complex to automate kit claiming because after claiming it twice your inventory is most likely full.
     
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    Sapling kit is free tho (45 minutes CD)
     
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    Well the 2 saplings that you get from this kit are pretty much worthless. I also don't think that it's that time consuming to use /daily, probably takes 1 second without and 2 seconds with the GUI.
     
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    While this is true there is little use to actually automating it.

    On economy you can make double the /daily amount in about 1 minute from a profit shop and on skyblock you can farm some wood and in about less than 15 minutes make more than 1 grass. Considering it's /daily is once every 24 hours even if automated on max accounts per IP (especially on economy) there is little to none gain whatsoever
     
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    Yeah I don't think anyone would automate it on economy, on survival I wouldn't be so sure. Since it only saves about a second of time I think it would be a downgrade and limit future reward adjustment options.
     
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    I also don't really care about saving the 1 second of time but it would be nice to only be a command. For survival automation, while this may happen the majority of the playerbase wouldn't even know how to automate it whatsoever and the ones that do get little value from it. Even if personally I had the accounts I could code to automate it daily I still wouldn't do it because it's not worth it at least for me. Considering most of the players that would be able to pull this off are the longer term players who are either donators or rich, it also wouldn't be worth it for them to take the time and earn some extra grass a day when some of them are pulling in multiple chest of grass weekly

    But again, isn't a major issue just figured I'd point that out
     
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    You got the point but I'd still say it

    Saplings are worthless yeah but they're in fact still useful for new players or as extra fuel if automated by afking riches

    For server, plain text means server process less packets than before which is an improvement for performance if I understood correctly

    The automation is not really an issue as it's literally just a specialized kit and people been automating kits, just secretly unpunished

    A single grass block is not really motivative for riches to log in from what I've experienced

    My final thought is either remove its GUI to save people's time or replace its reward with a common key for old players (a year) since it requires more effort to log onto the server comparing to voting.
     
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    Just tested, it has the placement priority of inventory, ender chest, floor

    So actually just fill up #1 #2 then set up a hopper room then claim kits carefully to not be affected by clag, not really that complex

    You really shouldn't worry about automation as long as there are proper cooldown to reduce network stress

    IIRC hacking is also partially allowed on the server and one extra grass block per day is totally not advantageous from the view of current gameplay.
     
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    Going to be blunt.

    You are getting a free reward. So if there is a small caveat that you go through a gui then so be it. Be patient, use it and then walk away with a free item or money.

    If it is so easy to make grass and money then in reality why worry about the daily then? It isn't like using the gui takes an unreasonable amount of time and unless someone is going for a skyblock speed run it isn't going to matter.

    Automation is a bigger issue that people realise. It isn't just a fear of people abusing the system. It impacts the quality of the server too.

    Unless the gui is broken in some way there is no need to do anything to it.
    Dex has already given the stance of the staff around what we are trying to avoid. Everyone can make infinite money, so we don't need to make things easier at this point.
     
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    There is no use for 1 account automating its usage, but there is a huge advantage for those who use a large amount (large meaning about 20-100 at once) of alt accounts and using proxies. Of course this is against the rules, but when has that ever stopped anyone.

    If set up correctly this is easier than you'd expect.

    There are ways for people to log on a large amount of accounts at once, while controlling all of them. Removing the GUI would just allow them all to use the daily at once, not only flushing the economy, but also creating a large amount of lag for the server.

    There's just no advantages to this. If you're going to use the daily just use it and don't complain. It's literally free grass.
     
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    They could just claim sapling kit to get the same result in fact

    You also do realize that all you stated are already doable by just manipulating some packets right? just the matter of difficulty

    IP blocking and mojang's migration should do their job to block ALTs not adding GUI pop up on features

    Removing the GUI allows people to use the daily at once and cause lags but keeping the GUI forces them to use the daily once plus sending extra packets which cause more lags

    As I said above, less lag and saving time for everyone

    And no one is complaining, we just here to discuss suggestions while I explain my suggestion furtherly

    discussing suggestions ≠ complaining
     
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    Basically "if it isn't broken don't fix it"

    I'll move on and try to make better suggestions.
     
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    Yes because the average minecraft player knows how to manipulate packets and everything and that's definitely the method I was suggesting. It's almost as if Minecraft clients can do everything except log on 200 accounts at once, which is why those MassAccount programs exist.

    Removing the GUI just makes it twice as easy and twice as susceptible to abuse. It's just not worth the hassle

    And since when has Mojang and Microsoft ever done their job? It's almost like the third-party programs are 17 steps ahead of Mojang

    Remove 2 packets for 200 bonus packets. SICK! FUN! The TPS will LOVE this one!
     
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    I don't think there's any legitimate reason why the GUI should be removed. To be honest I like clicking the storage minecart and hearing the "DING!" noise, haha!
     
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