Ratings Count as Gravedigging?

In this case the point of preventing gravedigging is to prevent old threads from being brought up again. The fact that this response was deemed unnecessary is sufficient for the gravedigging rule to apply.

 

But shouldn't rules apply the same everywhere instead of the moderator having to decide whether its acceptable or not?

 

I don't mean to be rude in anyway, but is it gravedigging if only Pile and Hoecobo have recently looked at it?

 

Hoecobo did not gravedig. If anything, you did. This thread was not brought up again untill you decided to consider his rating "rating abuse", and if that had not been done, this would not be happening and the thread never would of been brought back up. So this really can't be justified as grave digging. The only thing it could possibly qualify as is rating abuse, but how is it rating abuse to rate negatively something that he felt that way about? Yet again, is this not the whole point of ratings?

 

1) That's a lie. One does not simply "chance" across a post within a thread from over a year ago. Regardless, it's hearsay because you can't tell me what someone else may or may not have thought at the time.
2) That particular post was a staff decision, which shouldn't be rated on. If you disagree with a staff posting or decision, PM the staff or report it as per the forum rules.
3) I've explained above - the response was not deemed necessary and thus it falls under the category of gravedigging
4) If it had been a positive rating that was reported by the player who posted the original thread, I would have considered it equally as if it were a negative rating.

 

In theory, yes, but in practice every post needs to be taken within the context of the thread, and the authors. So something innocuous looking to someone may be completely offensive towards someone else. That's why we have moderators and not just an automated filter.

 

Here's how I always "chance" across a post within a thread from over a year ago.
Step 1: Click members
Step 2: Click Current Visitors
Step 3: Scroll and look at what the robots are looking at
Step 4: See an interesting name
Step 5: Click on interesting name

I do this all the time. Look at Maximilian 's profile for one example, and at Hoecobo 's for another

 

Ok. When you become SMod you can make that decision.

Don't forget, he wasn't banned by me for this - only verbally warned. In fact I specifically instructed the staff not to Ban him for this, only warn and remove the rating. Even for his staff report he wasn't banned by me. Only when he continued to harp on this and harass other staff did another SMod ban him.

 

???

 

So you went searching for interesting posts, as I said before. Regardless like I said, it's hearsay.

 

I also sense that this "discussion" is turning into more of a couched staff report. If you wish to have a discussion, feel free to, but save staff reports for the reporting section, or PMs

 

Fair enough, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hoecobo was doing that at the time
The two of us do things similarly

 

Forum Rules

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see anything on here saying that mods are exempt from ratings on staff decisions. Also, since you brought up the rules..
Gravedigging:
Do not post on a thread over 30 days old, although introductions, moderator applications, help, reports, appeals, and suggestions do not apply to this.
Where do you see anything here saying that rating threads is gravedigging?
And here's the thread on rating abuse Rate Abuse Defined + 25 posts to use post ratings | Skyblock Forums
Why do you think that Hoecobo rated the post negatively without reason? His reason was that he disagreed with what the post said, which is a valid reason. There is no valid evidence of rating abuse here.

 

Ok, well replace you with whichever staff member implemented the punishment, although I heard you were the one that told them to do so.
I don't have to be an SMod to state an observation like that.

 

Piggybacking on this
Wouldn't it help if we actually heard from the mod that banned him?

 

There's nothing wrong with rating an old post. Feel free to rate any post you'd like to. You can rate a post from 2012, and no punishment will happen, or I'll personally message cyp about it, and have sean unban you.

 

That makes 2 SMods who don't see this as gravedigging

 

Alright that's all fair.

Who are you to decide what I'm allowed to rate and what I'm not allowed to rate?

Looking at what all Hoecobo has said and what I have seen, harass is far-fetched. There is no issues with threatening to report, it's not like black mail was reporting. Heck, a report shouldn't even be needed, people should just be able to accept a rating and move on.

 

should be a demote on the spot for such a stupid decision, its clearly digging nothing up and whoever can't see that doesn't understand the meaning of the term to begin with.