Hi!

Somehow I have a suggestion even crazier than my last one.

It involves the "glitch" where you can duplicate dirt.

For everyone that doesn't know, this glitch is when you have 2 dirt and 2 gravel, and craft it into coarse dirt, you get 4 coarse dirt, which can be right-clicked with a hoe to be turned into normal dirt, turning 2 dirt into 4, but losing 2 gravel in doing so.

This has been disabled, for if you were to craft coarse dirt, you would get only 2 instead of 4.

When I first found out about this, and tried it, I thought it was obvious it should be disabled, but a few weeks have passed and I was thinking, what if it wasn't?

I've thought a lot about this and found a few pros and cons, here is the list:

Pros:
-The economy would benefit as the value of gravel would go up.
-Island farming would be less common as dirt is less valuable.
-It wouldn't be too overpowered because you still have to work for the gravel.
-It would make farms and grass-based/dirt-based decorations easier and cheaper to make.
-It could be the new way of getting materials as we have stone gens and tree farms but no way to get dirt.

Cons:
-New players wouldn't benefit much from it because they would not have gravel.
-Not everyone knows about it.
-Players that have already placed many grass blocks might be upset that they used grass on something they could've easily gotten in the present.
-It might promote dirt trading.

I think this would be ok since in my opinion it's not much different from a cobble gen.

What do you think?

 

It technically isn't a glitch, as that is anan intend vanilla Minecraft feature.

Neutral because gravel is kinda rare and it may not be worth getting gravel to dupe your dirt. It may not be necessary.

 

Well I wouldn't say that because I've once left the nether with over a stack of gravel in about 30 mins, but never even got close to leaving nether with a stack of grass worth of materials in 30 mins.​

Maybe it is easier to island farm but it may discourage people from island farming since there is a legal way that's also not that hard. Besides I believe there may be other benefits to this change

 

Neutral,

Gravel is rare and It has a low drop rate,

It's not duping dirt.

 

No support. Could increase underground dirt trade

 

yea I thought about that too, and put that as one of the cons, but it might honestly go the other way too, because like with sand, players now have a way to trade dirt that is not in the form of regular dirt and can be turned back into coarse dirt. With sand you can turn red sand into normal sand and back but you can't do that with grass and dirt.

yea I totally agree I don't know why I called it duping, although gravel is not nearly as rare as grass so it could make dirt a little more common for simple things like decorating and farming. I guess it's more like turning gravel into dirt than duplicating it. If the change did happen, it would make dirt the same value as gravel and I see people sell gravel up to 10:1 so farms and dirt/grass decorations will be 10x cheaper.

 

I vote neutral. I think this is something that was ignored for your reasons stated above.

 

I changed the title of the suggestion so now hopefully more people read this.

 

Hi!
When I first posted this thread I was under the impression that coarse dirt trade was in fact legal, but have recently found out that it is not, which changes a lot of the things I think would've made this suggestion a good idea, such as players having a new way to trade dirt without it being the kind of dirt that you can island farm.

The fact that coarse dirt is illegal makes no sense to me as red sand can be made into regular sand and back, and coarse dirt can be made into dirt and back, with no way of benefitting from island farming.

I fail to understand how that is different.

I do not know if its a glitch of some kind that coarse dirt is illegal as they have the same data value but with a different type, like stone with granite, wool with other wool colors etc. So maybe if the server can't tell the difference?

I understand that the development team cannot control the items that are illegal but maybe there is a solution to this somehow?

However if it is intended for coarse dirt trade to be illegal then I have nothing else I can say about this thread and would like it to be locked, however I would also like to know the reasoning behind why coarse dirt trade is illegal if it is.

Thanks for reading!