Item Sorter Guidebook

Discussion in 'Server Gameplay Suggestions' started by Dinglesplat, Apr 14, 2020.

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Is this a good idea?

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  1. Dinglesplat
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    Dinglesplat Well-Known Member

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    Item sorters are useful. There is no doubt about it. But, due to the clag, they are not so easy to make. I have tried many times, but they always flush out 16 items, and break the sorting system. I have tried to make it so it would input 15 items every time 16 was taken out, but I couldnt manage to get it to work.
    I understand that there are guidebooks, like the "Create a Skyblock" Guidebook, and I was wondering if there would be maybe a guidebook to make an item sorter?
    Here is why:
    They are sooo handy! Being able to chuck some items in, and then the important ones get filtered out, while the rest go into mass storage is always awesome.
    It is also a great way to build a casino, to have a hopper under a shulker box, so when a grass goes in (after a purchase) then it goes through and activated the casino
    And, it can help make your mob farm easier. All the different drops separated into different chests. It sure would be great!

    While a guidebook was only one idea, if there was an example at /warp info then it would also be nice, so if you wanted to make one, you could go check /warp info

    Of course, if this is too complicated, you could just help me make one. And then I could help others. But nevertheless, I need one.
     
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    I’m confused about your suggestion? Are you asking how to make a working item sorter or are you suggesting staff make a tutorial on making an item sorter? Either way YouTube tutorials might be what you are looking for.
     
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    No I know how to make an item sorter, but item sorters work differently in this skyblock due to some of the plugins. Due to different hopper functionality, normal item sorters from youtube do not work, such as the classic comparator design that I normaly use, with a comparator unpowering a hopper if the wanted item is received.

    So Basically, either one works, if the staff would make a tutorial, because many people, not just me, want to know how to make one with the clear lag plugin, or I would like to know how to make one.
     
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    Those types of storage systems rely heavily on hopper use and have too many floating entities (in water flows) you could use a hopper minecart system to transport the flow of items but it would be inefficient. These are rather unnecessary on a skyblock server as 99% of people use conventional mass storage. Chest towers etc.

    Also large sorting systems don’t help the server lag so staff are unlikely to endorse such devices.
     
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    Ok, so basically, I want to make a casino.
    In all of the good casinos, they have it so when someone buys something, like 1:1 cobble, then it activates.
    An item sorter was my only idea of making it do that.
    If I can't do that, then do you have any other idea of what I could do for a casino?
     
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    Yes chest shop casinos are rather easy to set up, I can show you the redstone mechanics of activation the next time I’m on, the actual casino but is up to you, there are also people who sell casino builds but be cautious if you choose to do that as some of them are copying others designs and don’t actually know how they work so can’t help you fix them when they go wrong.
     
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    So I know how to make casinos, as I have done it before, I just needed to learn how to create a redstone signal from a purchase from a chest-shop. So if you are able to show me the redstone mechanics of activation sometime, that'd be great!
     
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    I can also show you the design many casinos use if you want, have it saved on schmetica now. In short, you want a system of hoppers/droppers feeding into the shop chest. You want a comparator leading into the top-most hopper that leads into the shop chest. The comparator will activate whenever the hopper isn't full, but naturally it'll only send 1 signal instead of 16, caused by our current hopper settings. To get around this, you just have a circuit which feeds back into the comparator, allowing the signal to flicker all 16 times instead of once.
     
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    So I followed your instructions, made the schematic on a flat world, and then saved it. I hopped onto skyblock, tried loading it, but I lacked the permission nodes that I needed. Do I need a rank to load schematics?

    And also, thanks for the description of how to make the shop chest payment system. Thanks to it, I was able to construct my casino schematic!
     
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    You are not able to use world edit to load schematics, but you can use the schematica mod to load schematics. This mod lets you see a preview of your schematic before you start placing it, then lets you enable a print mode where it will automatically place blocks from your inventory to fill in the schematic.

    Glad my terrible description helped you get your casino working :D Let me know if you need any more help working schematica and getting it built on the server.
     
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    Oh I didnt know that was a world edit command
    Basically, I have never used schematica before, so this was my first time. I figured out how to save it, but I dont know the command to load it. Is there a different command I should be using to load it? Thanks
     
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    If you want a sorter odiewanenobi posted a thread (New Item Filter Design (16x Faster!!) | Skyblock Forums) And to load a schematic (i think you press '/' on the numpad but maybe that's just how I set it) pause the game, press options then controls scroll aaaall the way down to the bottom and it should say 'Schematica' and....

    Press '/' and choose the schematic you want to load, (To place a schematic into the schematic folder that schematica reads go to the same .minecraft folder as saves, mods etc but double click Schematics and paste the schematic into the folder) press it and click load to move it press '-' to load up a menu to move it.
     

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