I see why players are leaving.

Discussion in 'Introductions & Farewells' started by CEWallace, Jul 10, 2023.

  1. CEWallace
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    I spent $45.00 on this server, Not Knowing that I would never be able to build anything due to some items not online and nolonger allowed, This was not post anyplace on the server, so Buyers beware. For this reason I am requesting a refund for failure to make it known about what is and is not accessible by players.
    After 72 hrs I will report it to PayPal and trust pilot. as a scam.

    You should be ashamed of your self's, This once was a respected server.

    My base has four dripstones two for water and two for lava. located at the same place in the open. Water dripstone is working well, but the lava dripstone is dead and is not working. is lava farming not allowed?
    if so how are stores mas producing stone bricks?

    I have experience with dripstone and how they work, so I know it's not my setup.

    Another player reports: I would like to know this too. I saw the lava dripstone wasn't working on some ones island on economy too.

    Lava farming through dripstones is disabled but you can still get lava through right clicking a placed block of obsidian with a bucket

    So only a few players are allowed to use Lava to make items. not even on the economy server!..

    Pay to Win, - You just broke the Mojang eula by allowing only selected persons access to items. see you soon.
     
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    Yes this a problem many vanilla features are disabled / removed. There should be a list on the forums where you can see all of this info in one place.

    With stone generators

    There are many other ways to get lava, on eco you can simply by obsidian from /shop and right click it with an empty non stacked bucket. You can also mine enderchests with an non silk pickaxe and get 8 obsidian which can turn into 8 lava.

    In certain aspects they do violate Mojang's eula but Mojang doesn't seem to care as every server violates the same rules.
     
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    talisbar is living proof of the server not being p2w :D and many others
     
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    They don’t break EULA and have confirmed this multiple times.

    They won’t refund as it was a donation you willingly made, and I don’t see how certain features are a scam honestly.

    While they aren’t on a forums post, if you was to ask in chat you would’ve gotten an answer from someone online at the time about how the features work on here.

    Obsidian is obtainable on both servers, /shop on economy and player shops and /warp grass on skyblock, everyone has access
     
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    Like the others said above, I'm not sure if you are aware you could of got these materials from player shops with just in-game currency that can be obtained from basic methods.

    You made a deal from a purchase which most likely cannot be overturned on what your demand is..
     
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    You can refund your rank through your bank. Beware that you will be permanently banned if you do this
     
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    I too think it is extremely daft to change vanilla features on the server without gathering feedback from the community or at least thinking for a second about the outcomes. It worries me that when measures like this are taken to keep the current community happy but make the experience confusing and frustrating for new players, what is the future for the server? Skyblock needs to focus on growth! Look to the future! The unique selling point of the server is that it is Vanilla Skyblock; SkyBlock how it's supposed to be played, but changes like these are terrible in my opinion. /Warp grass was made for items that can't be obtained in normal skyblock world. Obsidian can now be obtained in 1.19 however it's limited just to keep a random block scarcely limited. I would even go as far to say enabling dripstone would benefit the server as it would decentivize Island Farming which staff are so eager to combat all the time.
     
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    Not having dripstone lava farms work might seem like it doesn't make sense, but remember the server was just updated from 1.12 to 1.19. I believe since the last server reset (around 5 years ago?), there haven't been any "major" updates to the server - specifically version updates that add new items from vanilla. Considering this, many players value obsidian and lava because in 1.12 it is not farmable. Also do remember that 1.19 isn't finished yet, so there are still a lot more things (hopefully) coming, although lava farms are pretty unlikely if ever getting enabled.

    I do agree about the vanilla thing though. The server is probably one of the 'most vanilla' servers out there, but it is no where near actual vanilla. Some vanilla features are game breaking for an economy based server, like villager trading or iron golem farms. However, there is a fair amount of questionable choices for features that are disabled/unobtainable on the server : nether gold ore, horse armor (besides leather), striders on player islands, ancient debris, rooted dirt (survival), soul speed (economy), and the cat (new mob, not the ocelot). Considering this is a server where people build things and show others what they make, disabling blocks and mobs for seemingly no reason doesn't make sense.
     
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    Adding to my previous post, like I said before, 1.19 is still young, so some of those features will most likely be added later on. I believe cats are in the works right now, but so is a fix for Mob Arena so you never know.
     
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    Hey Wallace, thanks for your post and voicing your concerns.

    Lava farming is disabled on Skyblock as lava has been universally 'rare' since it was difficult to obtain prior to updating to 1.19. The server owner decided to continue to keep it rare, and has thus disabled lava dripstone mechanics. Obsidian can still be obtained by finding it in chests in nether fortresses, buying from players in /ads etc on survival and on economy it can be purchased from /shop as other players here have elluded to.

    Stone can be gathered in mass quantities by creating high-efficiency stone generators using redstone. AFK mining is allowed on our server so often players leave an alternate account to mine at a generator for hours at a time to collect stone which can then be crafted into stone brick.

    As I explained earlier, lava can be obtained by anyone on the server. It is not an exclusive item. :)

    We are compliant with all EULA restrictions and rules. Our server has been checked previously and we were found to be following all rules set forth by Mojang.

    If you wish to have your money returned to you, you are welcome to open a chargeback with your banking institution. This will result in a permanent ban on our server though, so the decision is entirely up to you.

    If you have any other questions please feel free to reach out!
    Thanks for your time,
    Bree
     
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    Sorry to nitpick, but currently no loot is available in nether fortresses or bastion remnants.
     
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    Thanks for the reply Tim! Bastion loot was purposely disabled, however nether fortress loot should remain. I believe it currently may be broken though, so I did ask for someone to look into it. :)
     
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    You can gain more obsidian from /warp trade (skyblock) by buying an enderchest and then breaking it for its obsidian, or opening rare crates and winning an enderchest through there. At the moment that is the only server-injected supply of obsidian/lava apart from starter islands (lava bucket in chest).
     
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    If you get a refund consider buying yourself a lottery ticket irl because that's how lucky you are of getting one. and I think you can get perm banned in game but i guess you do you.
    If you want lava to drip through dripstones you are more than welcome to make a suggestion to it. I have my own issues for the server but if you want something done you can always drop a suggestion to improve not only your experience, but experiene of others. Im having trouble understanding your second bolded sentence so if you can elaborate more (or someone else) that would be great.

    bruh

    also why is this in introductions/farewells? I have no idea why its in here
     
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    funny how you talk about the ECO server when you've never even joined it.... and obsidian can be bought in /shop on ECO. fyi I did /seen and said you never joined
     
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    Get the refund king


    Beware you will be permed if you do

    This is a very useful forums post thank you for bringing it to our attention
     
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    First point is questionable.

    Second point is not true (they are purchases)

    Both points are kind of irrelevant to the issue described.
    Many features of servers are different and control over starter island materials is one necessary difference on this server. As others have said, lava is obtainable by other means available to everyone and this server has positive features that you wouldn’t find ordinarily such as ores generating in cobble/stone gens.
    Take the good with the bad but the issue you describe ain’t that bad as you’re now aware of other means to solve it.
     
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    If you want the true vanilla experience you can simply download the Skyblock singleplayer map 100% free here: https://skyblock.net/downloads/

    This server is already pretty close to the vanilla experience and you probably won't find another server that is any closer (and comparable). Every server with an economy and more than 15 players has to make adjustments by limiting or adjusting certain features. We also introduced new features that are not present in vanilla (especially on economy) to improve the gameplay experience and make things more interesting. In this specific case the server owner has decided that the lava dripstone interaction should be disabled for economy reasons. If you think that it should be enabled again because it wouldn't hurt the economy feel free to post a suggestion with points to back it up.

    Your purchase had nothing to do with dripstone or lava and you received what you paid for. To quote the terms of service: "Purchases from Us are payments for licenses to use the digital virtual items contained in the purchase. This transaction is final and there are no refunds.". PayPal also can't issue a refund, what you are talking about is opening a dispute which usually gets opened for one of two reasons: Either when you didn't receive the product or when you received it but it doesn't match the description at all. For example when you order a tennis DVD but receive a tennis racket instead. PayPal will then try to mediate between the buyer and the seller to solve the issue which could result in a chargeback. As already mentioned this will get you permanently banned (and based on what you said you don't even have a reason to open a dispute).

    The server isn't pay to win as there is nothing to win, it's not a PvP experience. You set your own goals and only compete with yourself. You clearly don't seem to understand the EULA and don't know how it's being enforced. Microsoft has requested changes in the past which we implemented, the server is EULA compliant otherwise it'd be blacklisted. Same goes for every single other server with a large player base that doesn't bypass the blacklist.
     
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