Economy Event hosting rules to be decoupled from advertising rules

Discussion in 'Server Gameplay Suggestions' started by laacis2, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:03 AM.

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Would you like to see this change to help more players perform event hosting?

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  2. no

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  1. laacis2
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    Hello, I would like to suggest a change to the chat rules. I love hosting events on my island, where players can compete for decent rewards, however, i found that the 10 minute advertising rule does not work well with game hosting in general.

    Advertising rule is imposed to reduce players promoting means for people giving them money.

    Hosting events usually have the opposite goals. Player hosting is trying to give his money to the participants.

    Also, due to the heavily AFK nature of the server, there aren't that many active concurrent players, and the ones who are, come and go generally rapidly, missing out on the event taking place. From my own testing, on average, a new player joins an event every 1-2 minutes, until saturation is reached.

    Therefore for a healthy event hosting opportunity i would like to see chat announcement frequency revised to standard spam rules, not advertising rules.
    Also limit event hosting per player (not account) to one event a hour after finishing the previous event, to limit oversaturation of events.
     
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    I support this, provided it comes alongside specific rules for what does and does not constitute an "event," as well as specific rules for event advertising including firm timescales. Violating any of these should carry the same punishments as normal spam rules.

    For example, say you were running a big maze event on your island on Saturday at 5pm. Standard advertising rules (1 per 10 minutes) should apply up to perhaps 90 minutes before the event. 90 minutes before, it can go to 1 advertisement per 5 minutes. 20 minutes before the event, perhaps 1 advertisement per 2 minutes? Once the event is underway and no more participants are sought, the advertising goes back to the usual 1 per 10 minutes.

    Strict guidelines would need to be set out for what is and isn't an "event" to stop people throwing daily "events" at their shop/casino/afk chamber in order to subvert the spam rules. That would be something staff would have to work out, i guess?

    Generally in support of this as a general concept, not sure how it would actually work in practise, and I guarantee this will cause extra work for staff as people will definitely see it as a loophole to abuse.
     
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    I'd define an event as any player or staff hosted activity for rewards defined by the player or staff. A casino style event would only qualify if the entire funds for the event were supplied by the host, for example, any bets. Any promises and withdrawals of prizes would be severely punished. I agree with standard advertising rules up to around 2 hours before the event, and only high frequency announces within 10-20 minutes of the event, which would be the logical standard method for hosting.

    I also see that staff involvement might be more frequently sought, however, i think standard reporting system should be able to retrospectively deal with rule breakers, just like it currently deals with ads.

    People generally are unaware that event announcements currently fall under advertising rules, but not many players try to host events anyway, so i don't think the ammendment will increase hosting by an usnusual amount.

    I think generally increasing events happening would help people break some of the monotony and perhaps join the game more often instead of just leaving their characters perpetually AFK, without anyhow punishing those who choose to just AFK.
     
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    im going to be hosting a 10% off sale event on all my shops and my casino all year!! and if you walk through all the shops and casinos you have a skin competition that uses ✨ ai ✨ (artificial integers, a number generator) to judge the skins without human intervention.

    (please ignore the 10% markup i put on everything last month that is unrelated)
     
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  5. laacis2
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    you didn't read what i said above =) Neither did you vote on the poll. Also currently players willing to host an event more often than not, do not know about the advertising rule impacting events (it really shouldn't). Not like we have anyone trying to host fishy events either.
     
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    i didn't vote in the poll because it's just reactions v2
     
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    If we were to lift the rule of advertisement, the chat would become a lot of spam for advertisements. I also wouldn’t want to see a rule change to per account and not a player as then it’s just bypassing advertising.

    Even for events it should follow the same advertisement rules, whilst yes a lot of players are afk, it happens. It’s a simple rule, but effective.

    I’m personally against this and would rather any advertising be done on /ads. But I think the rules on advertising is fair.
     
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    Trash reply that tries to discredit what Mr. Iaacis2 wants (Shoutout ppl who can read XD) should probably delete the reply and use ur thinking cap to rephrase it as a "OMG what if evil awful ppl do something like this?" to which case you'd already have Mr. Iaacis2's opinion on the matter (Shout ppl who can read XD) but at least u'd be trying to contribute :)

    Bro read the suggestion's title and contents! Even if you read the title I think it's pretty obvious he doesn't want the advertisement rule destroyed, he just wants to be able to advertise his events more than once every ten minutes :)! ALSO
    Iaacis2 I support your thread dawg, I hope so many little noobs go to ur events
     
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    I’ve read the suggestions under, in which is editing the advertisement rules to allow alt accounts to have limits similar to spam, which will see the chat worse then it already is for advertisement, as people already complain about it. :)
     
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    Neutral because I don't mind most of this BUT this clause is not needed at all as we do not have that many events.
     
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    Honestly I don't think no staff will warn or mute u / anyone will be bothered if you're hosting a giveaway event since that isn't considered advertisement. I've spam "advertised" myself and other people events(not just giveaways, big shows like emy's firework shows on holidays too) all the time with multiple staffs online and they never came to pinch my ears. Obviously we're talking about a considerable amount( at least a grass stack giveaway) otherwise you're wasting people's time and it's when people will get mad. Also don't spam like crazy, a message per minute should be more than enough! I find changing the rules to be an unnecessary change for something like this...

    Edit: Oop I just noticed this is economy, but I think it works same way in both servers lol
     
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    I'm a huge eco player and lover of event hosting, but i've seen some friction and when clarifying with staff over event hosting, they adamantly stated the 10 minute limit. So if I were to host an event again, for example, find me on my island for 10k (specially geared to new players), i would likely be breaking rules and potentially get muted because I've previously asked about the frequency.

    Some of my maze events can also get quite tricky and long, my record for maze event duration was 2 hours.
     
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    I am sorry for confusion caused, i do not wish modifying the advertisement rules, I wish to decouple event hosting from advertising so advertising rules no longer impact hosting of events.

    Furthermore I would like to either bring in a new event hosting rule fitting the parameters discussed above (one per player, not account), per specified time period, say, week. When announcing an event, one per 10 minutes (same as advertising) until around 1-2 hours prior to event, then reduce that to one per 5 minutes up to 10 minutes prior to event, and one per minute for assembly of players, and basic spam rules for event taking place.

    or alternatively simply apply spam rules to an event hosting from 10 minutes prior to event start to an end of event.

    My definition of an event:

    Event is a player hosted activity based on event rules, hosted purely for enjoyment of other players, is not to be used as fundraiser or advertisement of paid services or gambling.
     
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