Denied Discord perm ban appeal: perm banned because staff started a fight with me in general?.

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    Punished Discord name & tag (e.g Name#0000): CraftWithAbbie

    Punishment message: -You were banned in Skyblock. | Continued staff disrespect and throwing shade and slandering staff. Refusal to adequately drop the topic.-

    Have you read the Discord rules? Yes
    Do you think this punishment was incorrect? Yes
    Why should you be unbanned/unmuted? Because staff started a fight with me in general and used that as their excuse to ban me. After id repeatedly asked them to leave me alone.

    Please list any other times you were punished on the Skyblock Discord: previouse ban for complaining in general chat about the mistreatment i recieved from staff failing to show support in a help ticket.
    If you know, tag the staff member that punished you: morray eel, Sours, frez AND trinity.
    Do you understand and accept the Skyblock Discord rules and our code of conduct? Yes, do staff?


    To summarise what's led to my ban, background info is required.

    I got scammed in game, (staff disagree because it didn't neatly fall under their black and white category of what a scam is.)

    A player desperatly wanted an elytra to fly with and theyd been bullied by players in game to a point they were crying about it.

    So I thought I was doing something helpful and kind, by offering a trade for a new elytra, so they can FLY. not for them to instantly turn around and try flip it for 20 stacks of grass profit. That's the scam.

    I've reported it. As I should, and staffs instant reaction in my help ticket was to mock me and deny it. This was done by a staff member who has shown nothing but hate towards me since 2022. So respectfully I've asked for a different staff to support. And not instantly invalidate me laughing at my ticket. But again this time Sours joined the ticket and started mocking me, claiming its actually laughable etc.

    I have an ongoing open staff report about these issues regarding Sours.

    I had FOUR staff members gang up against me. Blaming me for trying to do something helpful, and denying my request to very simply UNDO my trade. Which staff have force undone deals between me and staff so whys this any different. Oh wait, I get it, it's because I'm kind, and I try help people that you staff deny my tickets under that excuse.

    Leaving the ticket because sours and frez and moray and trinity were all denying I got scammed because they claimed whatever, I asked in the general chat about people opinions on what happened in game, SPECIFICALLY STATING, that I'm noy slandering staff as you call it constantly, but I was looking for other players thoughts on the scam itself.

    Fairs fair. Some players said they thought I was, and gave their reasons. And some players said that I wasn't scammed.

    Sours however starts to argue eith me, forcing demands across the general, and then perm bans me after I repeatedly asked her to leave me alone.

    This is SO UNPROFESINAL of staff . Start a fight in general to push across your excuse to issue a perm ban.

    So yes. I'd like my discord ban to be revoked. I'd also like my open staff report to be dealt with accordingly. Noobcrew you seem to fail at acknowledging any of these issues within your staff team, and it's having a direct affect and iact on your dedicated players.

    Noone wants to join a server where the staff ACTIVELY GO OUT THEIR WAY, TO ISSUE PERM BANS.
     
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    Also, I say this is a perm ban because that's how it comes across, however frez states the followig:
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    So I would like this "temporary" perm ban lifted. Thanks for your time in showing you support your players. Instead of actively look for ways you can get away with issuing the harshest punishments.
     
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    Hi there, I was the one, and only one, responsible for your discord punishments for this situation.

    The intention was, and still is, to not have this as a permanent ban, however after reading the staff report and seeing in game that the situation that lead to the report had not been dropped and was still "high spirited" for lack of better phrasing, I made the decision to keep you banned until we had a definite response on the staff report and then your following behaviour.
    As you requested noobcrew to review the report this may take some time, I appreciate the concerns raised within the report are delicate and that you did not wish to have it held for a long period of time.

    Since your response to the code of conduct question was "yes, do staff?" I currently cannot fully believe that you will rejoin the discord community leaving this situation in the past. Afterall, it was your reaction to it that lead to your ban, not the situation itself. I hope that makes sense?
     
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    thankyou for clarifying this. when its a 4v1 staff v me, its hard to know, especially without a banning staff member in the ban message. considering the interaction sourss provided towards me, i have natually thought it was her.

    perhaps then this could have been better explained to me, rather than issuing what appears to be, another perm ban and then this 2 month act of staff silence towards me.

    so youve looked at my open staff report about sours,. yourself, moray and trinity. and youre using that as your judgment here? i hope thats not the case, becuase if so, first of all ive barely been in game since my initial report, so to claim my behaiour hasnt improved enough in game comes across as a mistaken comment on your part, and the active staff report has to do with how yours and other staff's actions have hurt me as a player of this community whenseeking support from staff. That has nothing to do with my behabiour, espacialy as im waiting patiently for any constructive feedback, such as hi, we recognise theres some issues within staff, and this is the plan to help resolve this.

    ive never had an issue with sours in game by the way, from my understanding she dislikes me over a non support of her staff application ages back, and since then ive compliumented her, for the role, and ive been polite in every other occurance, so when she instantly jumped to mocking me and my grammar, rather than taking the time to look into my previouse player report, that greatly upset me.

    the issues ive had lately, come directly from the neglect of care shown by some of the staff when seeking their help.. thats all in my staff report, so ill leave that there, just know that my behaviour in game has increased tenfold more than what you presume,.

    and how do you carry out such judgement ? i still show support to people in game, despite comminteing a few times 2 months ago in game about when i had my elytra deal frauded. prior to that my only report was when luka lowballed me over a drop head trade, and he forcefully undid the trade. ive had no major issues or reports before that, the issues as stated come from the actions of staff towards me as a player.

    i can carry on improving my behavbiour ofcourse, but id also like communication with staff on their part. staff need to acknowladge when theres an issue with themselves, and resolve it ion a way that reasures myself as a player, that i can come to you for support without the fear of being perm banne dfor asking for it ?.

    how can i feel reasured that if theres a probnlem, i can come to staff for the suppor tthey signed up for as part of the role ? when lately my staff interactions have felt very against me.

    alright, i apologise, as that was partly sarcasm. Because staff should also follow the same code of conduct. Provoking players goes against that, hence the sarcasm.

    may i remind you about the following rules, of which ive double read again.

    4. You must be polite and friendly to all members in the community. You cannot do the following (but not limited to) towards staff and players:
    • Argue
    • Bully
    • Provoke

    this should aslo apply to staff. sours provoked me, she sent me dms claiming im a lair, yet wouldnt state what i lie about, and made accusations about me, after which she joined general chat and started arguing with me , which is what led to this ban.

    staff should not provoke players no matter what the reason may be.
    using a screenshot of an irrelavant comment form a totally different platofrm, as only evidence is provoking behaviour. argueing with me in genral was bullying behabviuour, making demands that i stopped talking etc.

    my discord ban imo, was issued because i complained over the obviouse neglefct by multiple staff at once. the instant invalidation over my report, and denyal to show support hurt me and greatly upset me. you had four vs one, two of which claim to actually hate me., so hows that fair.

    i had asked general chat opionions about the entire elytra ordeal, and some players supported me, in aggreeance, and a few disagreed and gave their resons. it was a constructive general chat conversation. i intentionally made it clear i diditnt want to get staff involvment in the conversdation so that i could actually talk somehwere and destress. and thats wqhen sours joined in and instantly went into argueing mode with me, repeatedly after i asked her to stop.

    so for these reasons i beleave my discord ban is unfair, and should be appealed.

    if the staff are polite, and take their time to work with a problem, all of these situations can easily be avoided, staff need to be more open to keeping personal opinions and feelings about certain players they may dislike, behind them. they took on the role of staff to show support, not hate. then i really dont see there being issues. i support people across the servers, thats never gonna change, and im usualy, [used to be ugh,] active across the discord trade channekls and genral here and there.

    id like to be reasured though that straff will improve their own interactions with me also though, thered be no need for my staff report should i feel somethings being done to improve this all.
     
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    It makes sense yeah, staff have always punished me for reacting to their unfairness.

    But how about let's change that narrative? And show you want to help me at the times I ask for assistance instead of junping instantly to lets all mock abbie and deny her support, and I'd have nothing to be upset about. You are well aware of ways you've upset me. But all I ever hear is what am I doing about improv8ng the way I react to being upset, and never, we acknowlage we upset you first. And will try to not in future.

    A little reassurance and communication, can go a Long way.
     
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    From your staff report:
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    So please stop accusing Sourss of issuing the punishments as it was me and only me, as I have stated.

    I would also like to point out that Krissy's last response to your report was on the 6th of February, which to this date, was not 2 months ago.

    However, this is an appeal, not a report. An appeal is the opportunity for you to consider your own, and yours only, actions that may have lead to the punishment. Do You understand that your attitude and attacking behaviour led to your ban?
     
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    krissy didnt even give me an actual response, she says to dm her to discuss but then completely ignores my dm. shes had time to react to brees comments within my offtopic thread, so theres no excuse to not reply, after asking me to dm.


    she didnt coordinate the punishments with you ? becuase i find that very sus. she started on me in the general, and then i had the time out, i guess you timed me out to stop me replying, but sours starting on me to give reason for it is fine i guess.


    I understand, that the way ive retaliated to poor stafing and neglect of respect and care through my ticket, has led to reciving a time out form discord.

    however, i feel the ban is unfair. you timed me out already, theres no need to further throw a full ban ontop of it. especially when the time out was for asking sours to leave me alone ??.

    yknow, you staff really need to start treating me with the same respect you demand back from me.
    i posted a very credible player report, with intents for no punishment over the blatant reported fraud, but just that i simply wanted my deal undone, you staff are fully capable of this, as lukas proven before, when he forcefully reversed his drop head trade with me last xmas after our dispute about it. so there is literally no excuses other than favourtism here.

    i fully accept that the ways ive had " outbursts" as someone else calls it, are not acceptable.

    but then ask yourself this frez, why am i having to feel that the need of an outburst is the only way to raise attentions to your teams neglect?

    i can fully appeal and calim im guilty, but doing that will require your team members, to do the same. stop treating me like im a villain in your story, and show some respect, show you want to support me, rather than instantly jump to deny your support and punish me because you make me upset abnout it. it really is pathetic now. i harm noone in game, i help everyone the best i can, ive slowed down with opening tickets, only if its essential, and yet i still get mocked and taken the piss out of by your staff.

    this clearly is not just about me appealing my own behaviuour, when your teams behaviour is just as bad.


    dont take this as offence, please instead take this as a constructive critisim, to show me that you want to improve your interactions with me, and ill have literally no reasons to be upset over them. it really is that simple.
     
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    Once again, this is an appeal for your actions and your actions alone. Not a place for you to place blame on others for actions and words you conducted by yourself.

    Krissy gave you an indepth response in your staff report, I do not understand why that did not seem like a response for you, however this is an appeal and separate to your staff report.

    I timed you out and then you messaged sourss saying " You are so immature. Wow", this is what led to your ban as apparently timing you out did not deter you or make you stop and think about your actions. Once again, it was me who issued both punishments.

    This whole appeal just reiterates why I do not feel comfortable unbanning you at this time. You don't take responsibility for your own actions, you blame others constantly. You are your own person, your choices, actions and words are your own. Unfortunately, this is recurring behaviour. Your responses are frankly quite rude and you are not listening to what I have said, it was me who issued the punishments and me alone. "Very sus" but it is not. You were rude to a member of staff, I saw, and as the senior staff member, I took charge and issued the punishments. Please take my word for face value as I am not explaining it again.
     
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    i appologise, that i had an outburst of frustration, that has upset the staff.

    this was because, from my point of view at that time, she had started to provoke me, and then i got a generic time out msg via the discord dyno ticket thing. there was Zero indication as to who that was, and given the way she had interacted with me just prior to that, i assumed it was because of her, which is why i messaged her that. (However starting on mein the chat, then me reciving a time out did come across as immature.) youve told me otherwise that yourself issued them, and im aware of this , now. Would you like me to apologise to sours for calling her immatue?


    with all due respect, frez, i have taken responsibility for my own actions, ive admitted what ive done wrong many times now.
    this is true, i am my own person, with my own views and opinions. just as much as staff are too.
    can i remind you,. that it was staff that were rude to me first, by taking an out of context screenshot, and calling my report "obsolete" because of that screenshot, then denying to look at in game evidence, that is not my fault, so please stop deflecting the blame where thats due. I reacted poorly yes. But I felt that your staff dealt initially with it poorly too. I'll improve my own behaviour to try not to 'retaliate' in future.

    i fully accept that my behaviours have caused you staff upset, however I feel that its your staffs actions that have led to this upset.
    All this does is reiterate to me, that your staff dont care about how you interact with members of this community in a manner that shows politenes and support. If you did. You would have communicated this with me. my report is for a legit reason, your staff were RUDE to me. theyve provoked and argued with me within the general chat also, but all you want to hear, is that im to blame ? well fine, im to blame.

    but please, start treating me with the same respect, that you keep on demanding back from me.

    i apologise to sours for calling her immature,. and i apologise, for having caused her stress, I'd never want to cause your staff member stress by asking for support in a ticket. So I simply won't anymore.

    but are you and is she capable of saying the same back to me ?
    are you capbable of acknowladging, that the way she interacted with me, was poorly conducted too ?
     
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    Look frez, I really do want to work with you guys here.

    But you also need to realise that there have been interactions that have caused me upset over what comes across as neglect. Asking me to better myself is great, but your team could also do the same? Noones perfect we all have flaws. Let's not kick off at each others flaws.

    It's very tit for tat right now. Your team acts in a negative way that causes me upset. And I react to that upset accordingly.

    I'm aware about this and I am trying to improve myself for that in future. Please also reasure me that your team will try their part to get along better. And take the time to show support, instead of this denial of support act that's become your reoccurring theme.
     
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    Bump, also Since the past response from staff on my appeal, I'd like to update than ledgendcraft has been in direct contact through discord and has helped with reasonable advice
     
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    Hi there, I'm currently unavailable so I am in the process of handing this appeal off to someone else, thankyou for your patience during this time
     
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    Bumping. It's been another week..
     
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    Bumping, as its been another week again since last bump.
     
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    Hello, apologies for the wait.
    After reviewing this with the staff team and hearing multiple opinions, I have come to the conclusion of denying this appeal at this moment in time.

    As this is not a permanent ban, you may appeal again, with my advise being in 3 months time. This will allow appropriate time for staff to see a change in attitude and behaviour, one that will be more permanent than the temporary changes you have displayed previously.

    Thankyou for your time.
     
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    Thank you for creating an appeal, but unfortunately your appeal has been denied.
    We strongly recommend reading through this thread here for any future appeals!
    Thread closed and moved to Appeals Archive.
     
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