Could we bring back vote rewards for all servers when we vote whilst online on the three websites? I get the idea behind not receiving rewards when voting offline, but if we vote whilst we're online now we no longer get the equivalent rewards for the other servers. This has had a big impact on how a large majority of the player base used to trade and earn income in game, and a lot of giftcard traders are no longer able to trade bal or grass for gift cards. As an economy main player, I often used to sell gift cards I earned from top voters (I was even 2nd place top voter once,) but now nearly noone had economy balance to trade, as the players of trade with would usually be survival players who earned their bal from voting when online. Likewise, a great way I used to get resources, materials items and grass, was by voting everyday. The idea of voting on each of the servers is that it keeps the server higher up in the minecraft server lists. This benefits the skyblock server as more players see it advertised. So the server benefits from us voting, and kinda relying partly on it. As such We get keys, bal, grass etc as a reward to say thanks for voting for this server. But now we don't get half the rewards we used to because of the way their set to only the one server you're playing currently on. Add that to the fact we no longer get offline votes and it means a good half or more of our ways to earn income in game have been taken away from us. Eventually giftcards will become useless as more players with drop heads leave the community, so noone will be trading gcs for heads, and noone has income for the opposite servers from voting so there's no income to trade. Cropper tax also takes from our earnings, with player profit shops near extinct, we're very limited to relying on entire island sized farms just to earn enough to by a stack of blocks a day. I used to do upgrades trade gcs for bal and sell my grass too, now thats a thing of the past. So my suggestion is simple, keep offline votes as they are, but give us back our rewards for both of the servers we're voting for.
You can exchange earned gift-cards for either Skyblock grass or Economy balance can you not? I'm confused in your writing.
That's not what I'm saying though, I'm saying less people are trading due to not having the grass or balance from voting as we used to. Eg I've had a 10$gc being advertised to trade for the last two months because noone on survival who would buy the gcs has economy balance to afford it. We used to be able to get rewards for every server, meaning that voting was a good way to earn an income. But now that's been stopped and we only get rewards on one server that you're currently playing and missing out on the other servers rewards.
I’m sorry I don’t support this. Always found it weird a full on Skyblock player could log in to eco once a month to sell their Voter Keys and other valuables when they don’t even commit to the server whatsoever. Likewise I didn’t see the sense in a full on Eco player selling all their Skyblock earnings from voting for a bunch of cash on Eco when they don’t commit to the Survival server whatsoever. The change keeps Voter Keys on both servers more desirable and expensive and at least for Eco that’s a great thing because any sort of competitive markets are great since 99% of the server has shifted to boring automated farming. It’s like expecting to be rewarded for studying history when you only focus on geography. It’s unreasonable and doesn’t make sense. Pick a server to vote on and receive rewards and stick to it. As for your gift card sale crisis I think thats just you with a ridiculous asking price, I know many people who sell gift card balance on Eco on a regular basis for Eco bal so maybe re-evaluate your pricing!
You're welcome to have this opinion, you have good points. I wouldn't agree but that's just me. With respect, I don't ask for rediculous prices as you say and I've been trading giftcards well over a year. I'm just not willing to trade to people offering less than half their worth. My points still stand not even in regard of giftcards jist in general that survival players don't have as much eco resources as before the voting changed. And eco players aren't earning grass from voting for the servers like we used to. I get your point about players logging in once a month just to get a ton of rewards and that's why the offline voting has stopped issuing rewards. But playing online and voting for three different ip servers in order to keep those servers more findable should still give us the rewards for all of those servers. If noone were to vote the server would quickly fall down the charts. So it seems a bad desicion to restrict players that do vote online, like a punishment almost. But still the server benefits from the vote
Just to explain my no support, I agree mostly with MrEPro as I agree that if you don’t put the time in on the opposite server why should you reap double rewards. I don’t see the need, other than greed to change this back.
We get rewards on Skywars for voting, so... why not? Granted hardly anyone plays it, but still. I think I can support this suggestion but I also do agree with where the no-supports come from, so maybe if there was a way in which the server could tell if you had a decent sense of activity to earn rewards on both? I do feel like the pricing on both servers is kind of forked in what the community wants? Like voting each time gets you $1k on eco or 1g on survival, yet it's not 1k:1g which I don't quite understand? sorry if this is seen as off topic but some people play on both to grind for one specific server, so I'm not sure. I do think that allowing voting on both servers wouldn't help with that, but I do think that allowing us to redeem awards on both could encourage some people to try both servers, even if most would just sell stuff.
I agree that it never made sense that we would receive rewards on two servers for a single vote. But likewise, it doesn't make sense that one server can pool the votes from two servers to boost its ranking. Many Skyblock players don't like Economy (and vice versa) but they vote it up anyway. There are many servers that do this so it makes the whole site ranking system a bit of a joke. Economy and Skyblock have the same IP and are considered just one server (I'm pretty sure) so it's not really possible to vote for just one. We're still able to get top voter and win the GC's regardless of which server you are on when you vote. Unless I'm mistaken, we only miss out on the vote rewards at the time of voting, but we gain more rewards from the vote parties so long as you are online a bit and pick up a few of these. Perhaps the Eco reward for votes, vote parties and use of vote keys could be tweaked. Considering the current exchange rate, 1 Skyblock grass is worth about $7,000 to $10,000 skybucks. Maybe the original thought was that $1000 skybucks buys you 1 grass on Eco but one Eco grass doesn’t equal one Skyblock grass. If the main issue is loss of earnings I don't think this is the solution anyway. I'm trying to bring profit shops back, but they will never be what they were when croppers output the crops. There was a massive, server wide, loss of available profit with that update and that loss is felt by they new players. Warp Shop is a ghost town now. If taxes were meant to help level things, they will never cover the loss of profit shops as that mostly affects new player. Profit shops were the greatest ‘leveler’ as they essentially shared the profit of cropper farms. If croppers could be linked to a chunk without needing to be IN that chunk, they could feed straight into profit shops and remove the need for thousands of entities to be fired out using redstone pulses into waterways. But I guess that’s a different suggestion.
(This is before the vote rewards update. where you would receive vote keys on both servers) As a main SkyBlock/Survival player, it was quite nice logging onto Economy for the first time and seeing I wasn't completely starting out as a new player. I had some stacks of vote keys in my inventory! This alone made me want to see what all I could accomplish on ECO, it gave me a reason to see what it had to offer. I even won a DP head on ECO as well on Easter. Which I ended up selling and wasting all my balance on a in-game wedding, by doing giveaways. Anyway.. This is all under one server in a way, Economy and Survival are just sub-servers, right? Not quite sure myself, I could be wrong, but this is what I believe to be true. If you could gain vote rewards on both servers again, wouldn't it offer more of like, a sub-server trading system, trading bal>grass or grass>bal, bring back more variety possibly? Event DP heads are given, both on ECO and SB, regardless of what server you main. GiftCard's are rewarded , and able to be used either for ECO or SB. ...Why not Vote Keys though, even with current exch rate? I understand that people think its a little bit silly to get rewarded for a sub-server you don't actively play on. However it is indeed a nice feeling to know, if and when you decide to switch servers, you will at least have some sort of reward because you've supported the server as a whole. (Whether its vote keys or not, maybe something else?) Or maybe limit the sub-server vote key rewards so you're pretty much required to log into the other server to claim your daily vote keys, otherwise if you don't check in, you wont receive anymore than a server specified amount. (ex. Sally votes on Economy, she then receives vote keys on both servers. Sally claims her Economy vote keys, but she forgets to log into SkyBlock/Survival to claim her other vote keys. **Next Day** Sally proceeds to do her daily votes on Economy again, she then receives vote key rewards for Economy, but doesn't receive anymore vote keys for SkyBlock/Survival because she has not claimed her vote keys the previous day.) I don't mind either way tbf, As of right now I play both servers and enjoy both. I've also not done much research into any history, and I am still fairly still new-ish. Maybe I stir the pot though? IDK. This is my first real forums post/reply I guess. Wish everyone well.
Hi, sorry, I don’t want to sound rude but with great respect as well prices change and demand fluctuates as with any economy. Your lack of ability to sell given gift card is NOT related to the cross-server rewards ban and it’s up to you if you want to keep asking for a high price to buy when I know others like Gainz and SilentBeef who sell many different gift card sizes for roughly 500,000:$1USD. So what you think of to be reasonable clearly is ridiculous for buyers who choose to purchase for cheaper from others.
Either way, I was just saying about selling giftcards becoming harder because of players not having as much income on both servers. Nothing about if you personally feel I ask for too much, I don't think I do. I ask a fair offer. That's irrelevant anyway. My thread is about receiving grass keys and bal on each server. Not about receiving or selling giftcards, I said that as an example of how it's been affected by the rewards on each server stopping.
Thank you I am aware of the topic and keep in mind you strayed off the point first. Not receiving rewards on one server does not correlate to harder gift-card trading thus rendering your given ‘example’ pointless. Just because a Survival player no longer comes out with some keys on Eco does not mean they can’t now buy your gift-card? I really fail to see the logic so please educate me if I am missing something. Fewer rewards mean players actually have to grind the server to make progress instead of being given a whacky head-start by clicking some buttons. Like really, ask yourself, do you actually think it’s fair if you, an eco main, votes every day and ends up with 200 Survival Voter Keys by doing absolutely nothing on Skyblock. Then selling them for Eco bal? It does not make sense to me, it’s like committing to a rank on Eco and expecting to receive equivalent kit on Survival. It’s not a huge deal and I wouldn’t complain if your suggestion was implemented but it gives a head-start which feels scummy and undeserved Not to mention it would again lower prices of Keys and other valuables inside crates which isn’t really needed on either server. Your suggestion translated goes something along the lines of ‘Can we please get rewarded on the alternate server even though I don’t play it and just plan on exchanging them for goods on the server I play.’ Lazy and unearned in my eyes but respect your point of view anyway.
I am not exactly sure, all I am saying is your asking price must be at least a little high when multiple players sell many gift cards regularly! But as you said that is getting off topic so I’ll end it there.
You're getting confused and focusing on my comment about gift cards, I've said what the post was about, its not about me being unable to sell gift cards. This is just speculation where you're making up opinions about how much I chose to ask to sell my gift cards considering you personally don't know. For your personal reference, I've posted in both trade channels over the last 12 months where I offer to sell some gift cards. I sell some but no where near as I used to be able to pre update. I'm currently asking offers around 6-8m for a 10$gc. Considering grass sells from 8-10k now thats a fair asking price. Let's move on from you focusing on me and my gc sales. My points of this post are as follow Server asks us to vote to keep it in the charts, and we get rewards in game as a way to thank us. Next.. We no longer get 2/3rds of our in game rewards, why? What's the reason of taking away, something that many players rely on for in game bal/grass. We're still voting exactly the same, server still profits from our votes, but takes Two Thirds of our rewards back. Thats like saying, The Server gives us a pinata filled with sweets, lets us hit the sweets out and they turn out to be already eaten by server. My suggestion - Let us have on both servers, economy and skyblock, our keys, balances and grass like before the update. As long as we're voting playing on one of the servers. For well over a year that I've been playing, I've been able to use grass I'd saved up from voting to buy upgrades for people and myself. Now that's become much harder, because I have to chose Either Eco, or Survival. We can't have both anymore. That simple. Players can trade between servers again, currently the trade is so dead in the waters, you get some trades were players give low offers each other and very few decent trades simply becasue were no longer getting these rewards. Thats two Thirds of our income taken away from us, for keeping up our votes. I don't see why the change to stop these rewards was necessary when the player base has already enough effort to grind non stop afk farms to get resources and bal or grass. Plus its a great way as a new player to get resources in game, an eco player that's never tried Survival, finds it very hard to earn their first few grass. It helped me a load when I started otherwise I'd never have given Survival a try. Likewise for some Survival players wishing to try eco for the first time. It'll encourage more players trading again, over Xmas so many people were trading and building new ideas, it was great. There was a lot of players offering upgrades, and the eco omy balance was doing well. All we have these days are afk farms to grind for the low limited income.e were already getting
I’m not gonna bother responding to this because you have just repeated what you said before and stretched it out a lot more which I’ve already answered and left my opinion on. You say 6 mil is a fair price but it is not selling because players trade $10 for 5,000,000. It’s as simple as that. What’s fair to you isn't to others. But that’s off topic as we already finally agreed! Sure I get the point from a new player perspective but my feelings stay quite against this. In my opinion it’s lazy and undeserving. But we already went over this and you just repeated what you have said for the third time without bringing in any new points of view so I’m not really sure how you think that will convince me and any others leaving a no support rating. Another analogy, it’s like expecting to be paid for two shifts at work when you only actually attend one! Doesn’t make sense in my books.
