I love myself an auto sorter. However, due to the hopper limit per island, I seldom make them. Minecraft's inventory system is outdated. So much of my time on SkyBlock is spent manually putting my items away. If I could, I would make an auto sorter. I'd spend however much money or grass blocks getting the resources and I'd put in the time to build it all. But it's just too many hoppers out of the limit to justify. An auto sorter plugin could save us all so much time so that we can focus more on what's actually important- socializing, learning, building, etc. This would also improve farm storage. No longer would we have to worry about manually moving items into their respective chests to sell or store. I understand the hopper limit. I may not like it, lol, but I understand why we have it. So instead of raising the number of hoppers, I think an auto storage plugin would be a nice compromise. Lock it behind some tasks. Make this magical hopper expensive. Whatever it takes, I just really want to stop dealing with tediously spending 5 minutes clearing my inventory every 10 minutes or whatever. Apparently Spigot has ChestSort and Bukkit has AutoSort. I will not pretend like I know how those work or that I know how to run a server. But I really hope you can consider this quality-of-life addition Please let me know if you have any questions or comments!
That could maybe help the general storage issue but not so much the storage from farms and generators. Do you have a mod you know that can help?
i think this would be a nice addition if its possible to add. would be nice to have an auto sorter plugin!!
you'd need a way to limit this still so to not cause lag, only thing I can think of is have a special hopper that can be bought and has a menu that would only allow one type of item through as the redstone versions of that do bug out at times
even that would be better since i think you need two hoppers per item. this would at least cut the hoppers needed in half.
Fair, and I do too to some degree! However, I think at this late in the game I would be automating a lot more by now.
It makes sense, the issue right now is that autosorters already exist but are throttled significantly by existing plugins which make hoppers super hard to work with. Each autosorter hopper setup takes like 3 hoppers, but some farms have many drops (moss farms for example have seeds, moss carpet, azalea, flowering azalea, moss) so to make an autosorter for this would require 1/3 of the hoppers on your island, and that doesn't even account for the fact that the hoppers pickup rate is throttled so they miss most of the drops they're meant to sort. Autosorters are a really important aspect of automatic farming which is an important aspect in ECO. This could help diversify the ways people make money (away from boring crop farms) and towards more interesting block and mob farms which would make people more likely to find niches in the economy selling those sorted items. Also more farms to design and build = more enjoyable player experiences, and that leads to higher player retention and donations. Its not like the existing limitations are focused on preventing autosorters either, the main reason they limit item transfer rate is lag, so if an external plugin can provide that kind of capability it would be great. This would be a relatively simple addition, and would allow players who enjoy the technical side of minecraft to have more fun designing cooler farms with profit as an incentive. To address the criticisms, 1. You can have inventory autosorters: 1a. True, however, this method is relatively limited to people who know how to work mods. Many of the players who are active do not have that kind of knowledge, so I feel like it an autosorter plugin would be a more democratic way of allowing new players to enhance their farms. 2. If we make things easier then whats the point 2a. I like this thought generally, but the current system isn't really about it being more difficult to discourage people from using them, more that its a side effect of the current plugins. It simply costs too much for players like myself who enjoy designing farms to even entertain using them. Especially if it was an unintended consequence of trying to limit hopper lag. I just feel like it would be a quality of life boost to be able to actually use automatic farms in the way that they are intended instead of trying to conform around some arbitrary limitation. 3. The whole point of the hopper limitation thing is to reduce lag. 3a. I've never used an autosorter plugin so I'm not familiar with how much this would reduce lag, however, if there is less data within a block (ie the sorter block) because it has been primed to sort for a specific item moves over it instead of having to calculate what item it is allowed to transfer each time, then it should be less laggy than storing the item within a hopper and all of the data that it entails. I would hope it would still act similar to a hopper (be connected to the storage system directly) because otherwise it would be a bit OP and not really in the spirit of vanilla mc. Having items transfer across an island seems a bit OP to me, but in ECO it may be worth it if someone has the funds. Something to consider. Sidenote: the hopper rate limitation is also really frustrating for people who want to design things like shulker loader and unloaders as the hopper limit is easily taken up with even a slow automatic farm. This makes them almost impossible to use despite providing a ton of benefit to automatic farms. If there was a plugin for this too I think that'd be wonderful. Let me know what you guys think though.
Wow. I should've asked you to write my post, haha. All I can say is I strongly agree. Thank you for taking the time to write this
I strongly agree with this suggestion as the redstone systems on the server are already heavily limited due to plugin tweaks, about the point of why make it easier or "less vanilla" auto sorters are a vanilla available system one could make on any survival world so truly it would be returning a feature of vanilla that has been "taken away" from the players. +1 Support
If I were to design such feature, as a SpigotMC plugin I would go with a hopper filter that works with signs You would type [filter] to enable the feature similar to how we currently type [shop] to get the shop And the GUI would allow for up to 3 items which are allowed, the rest are not picked up. Once you set those, they will show in the next 3 lines of the sign post. I wouldn't add any other complexity, except for the ability to maybe use up to 4 signs per hopper? If space allows you to. Judging by how complex other plugins can get. I think a capable team could code this easily, Not only for our servers, but for any server using SpigotMc. I might even look into it myself.
I'm down for something like that. Thank you! Let me know the progress of the plugin if you do want to give it a shot!
No need to recreate the wheel, I would have done a few things differently, but this seems to be close enough: Overview - HopperFilterSimplified - Bukkit Plugins - Projects - Bukkit
