Anti-Spam Bots

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  1. dolpinmilk
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    So I think when the server gets attacked with spam bots. Instead of kicking them, we attack back with more spambots so that their spam bots can't say anything in chat.

    I feel this would really help when spam bots come on the server as it'd block everything they say and people would see what Cyp choses them to say, while the mods slowly ban the REAL spam bots

    Example below

    See this would give the mods time to ban the spambot without everyone seeing the server hate!
     
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    You're joking, right?
     
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    No I really think it'd work
     
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    ... *deep sigh* ...

    no support.
     
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    I don't quite understand, so your solution to stopping the spam that spam bots create is to create more spam? It doesn't seem very logical.
     
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    Yeah. Then no players would see what the spam bots are saying which is good because it's often inappropriate.
     
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    Yes. We use this on my server and it works really well.
     
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    That would technically mean your advertising.
    You're only allowed to PM people over server ips if the player asks for it.
    .w.
     
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    I added an example!
     
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    Hmm, possibly upgrade our resources?
     
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    Are you f***ing serious right now? You are posting a suggestion. You NEED criticism. Your post there about upgrading the recources is not at all thought out. Upgrading the resources just to implement a system that creates even more spam costs a lot. This is not some 5 player server which you can upgrade for 1$ extra per month, this is a very big server that runs together with some of Noobcrew's other servers in one Machine (those other servers not including Mineverse). If you don't want criticism for your suggestion don't even post it. Especially when suggesting something that creates annoying spam in chat.
     
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    He is meaning a chat filter. Basically when they say negative things it changes them. Support.
     
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    No, read his example. He means that if a spambot spams it spams back.
     
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    No, he means if they're gonna spam server hate might as well filter/change that with something else, something more positive.
     
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    Why are you so negative, jeez I support his idea, buck off kid.
     
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    Screw this 48 hour thing I said, this is just too horrible.


    I'll start off with a comment
    He is not being negative. You indeed have not understood the suggestion. He is suggesting that if a spam bot spams, custom spam bots spam back so you can not see the original spambots spam. Evidence to this is in:

    - The example
    - A post above where it shows that multiple messages would be created. (5 times resources). You would obviously not need 5 times the resources if you would, how you say, censor out the spam bot.

    So obviously you have not understood the suggestion. Here is a brief explanation; He is suggesting that if a spam bot spams a spam bot from the server would "attack back" with 5 times the messages. This would blind out the original spam bots message.

    Now to the suggestion. I don't see how you can think this is a good idea. I don't know how many players your server has but I'd assume around 0-20. Your suggestion would work on that scale although I don't see how it is a good solution at all.

    But we are talking about a way bigger server here. What you are essentially doing is creating 5 TIMES the actual spam that is created by a spam bot. I can assure you that this - along with an extremely flooded chat - will not work at all. What about if no mods are online? For any people who love to use spam bots this server would be a massive opportunity since the server quintuples the amount of spam without any work for the spam bot creator.

    This useless spam would also annoy the hell out of the players - it makes the chat UNUSABLE. Think of 2 spam bots spamming "LOLOLOL THIS IS SPAM". With your suggestion each time they would post that 12 messages would appear in chat - 2 from the actual spammers and 10 from the server. Chat would be absolutely unusable and I don't even want to know what MineChat would be like. This is why I asked if you thought about this for more than 1 second, simply because it makes the chat unusable. This is the second worst suggestion I have seen this year - only being topped by another suggestion that suggests "a purge". Also, your way of handling the feedback on this is ridiculous. I don't even see why you need to be a spambot to spam. This would also quintuple all the regular banner shop spam. f***, I don't know what that would be like.

    Just looking at what you posted it is very clear that Dewmellon unfortunately did not understand what you suggested - but instead of explaining it you send an agree to the post saying Sky is negative. The only thing Sky did is post considerable and smart criticism. This is not being negative, what he is doing is an essential part of posting a suggestion. Also this
    just proves that. You need to understand what criticism is before posting a suggestion. I do not see how players on your server enjoy chat being filled up with messages. But since it's not a big server I guess that would work? But you have clearly not thought this out for a few hundred players trying to use the chat. So in the end of the day here is why it is a horrible suggestion + why it would not work: Players cannot use chat because of all the spam, any normal spam would be quintupled, would use unnecessary resources, not accepting criticism on your suggestion, would annoy players.

    P.S Why is this even necessary? Mods can just mute/kick spammers normally. I don't see why you need to create more spam in the time that mods write the command in chat.


    It would be nice if you respond to all the points I made in this - (if you respond) not only certain ones.
    Thanks for reading.
     
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    As far as I'm aware this isn't your server nor are you in the position to tell someone to leave.
    You are the one that create a suggestion. A suggestion that players can leave their opinion and feedback on the matter to see how they think it will or will not work out.
    Players have given you some feedback to why this add-on seems like it will not work.
    If it was me, I would read what those players have said and try to improve the suggestion, not defend it.


    If you want to improve on your suggest and possibly make it better, then prepare for some negative feedback.
    because, like it or not, there will always be haters. The easiest way is to try to improve and reduce the number the haters, not increase it.

    Sadly in this world, nothing is always completely nice and prefect.
     
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    Keep this thread on-topic. I have already deleted all the off-topic posts.
     

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