Add rares into the /lostandfound command please

Rares such as:
Spawners
Placed AND Unplaced Easter heads
Elytras
Sponges
Beacons

- If anyone else can name a decent rare that people would be upset to die with, leave a comment and I'll edit the post.

 

I was made aware that the /lostandfound command was to help the newer players not lose their unpurchasable items when starting out (dirt, sand, buckets), but I feel that items that cost 100's of diamonds are worthy of being implemented?

People die all the time from stupid things, and sometimes they are at the wrong spot at the wrong time, like block lag due to the servers performance and they fall off their island due to it etc.

 

Support. You know why.

 

Neutral. It might be useful, but as Krissy said, it shouldn't turn into a keep inventory command. You can always keep valuables in your enderchest, or in an actual chest on your island.

 

Trust me, it’s far off being /keepinventory

 

The same list controls things that can't be dropped or be used to create trade shops, and that are saved in lost and found if you die while carrying them.

These items used to be deleted from your inventory when you die, instead of letting them drop as items that others could pick up.

We added the lostandfound command as a courtesy to new players who might quit early on if they died while carrying their bucket.

Crew wasn't keen on the idea and it took a lot of persuasion to get him to give this to all players. I don't see him approving the significant development work it would take to transform this into a free lite version of keepitems.

This is a survival server, and you have to be careful not to die while carrying your best gear with you into dangerous (but rewarding) situations such as the nether.

Flying around in the nether with your elytra and enchanted full diamond armor can give you an major advantage, but it's balanced by the fact that if you die there, a lucky unranked player nearby can be the proud new owner of all the stuff you just dropped.

 

Krissy for dev, she's a know-it-all and knows stuffz

 

But rares are items that are extremely difficult for new players to obtain. If this were to be implemented, at least just have it for defaults.

 

Gamzee, I hear you. The problem is the way it was designed, it's controlled by the forbidden trade list. The list is used by a lot of functions and we did it that way to ensure we wouldn't have the same type of inconsistency as on the classic server. For example, you couldn't drop diamond blocks for the longest time even if you wanted to. And while you couldn't drop buckets and they would be removed from your inventory when dying, you could make trade chests that could buy or sell milk buckets. And red sand couldn't be dropped or sold using trade chests even though it was legal.

So now we just have one list of forbidden trade items that are used by all these functions. We really don't want to complicate the design of the plugin by adding special exceptions for different related functions.

One of the main objections we had to overcome to adding the lost and found command at all was that Crew was afraid that players would next want to be able to keep rares and other valuables on death and that was something Crew was very determined we not do. Like I said before, it took a lot of gentle persuasion over a long period of time to get his permission to give this command to all players.

To give you an idea of what I mean, this feature was one of the first things I wrote for the new server. And we didn't get permission to enable it until very recently.

I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, just trying to set clear expectations. :/

I think this is a great feature and it's really helpful to new players. I'm just hoping we can avoid making Crew regret approving it, or he'll be even more resistant the next time we suggest something that's outside his comfort zone.

 

No support reasons above^^


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