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  1. Lemonade
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    So many people seem to make these mistakes, and I've decided to point it out.

    1. Nobody cares about supports other than the applicant- It may seem harsh, but do you even know why you're applying for moderator if all you're doing is helping in global chat? You're creating an unnecessary spam that you yourself are trying to prevent. People only help in global chat because it gives them fame and glory to other players so they can support their applications. I highly doubt Cyp cares about who says, "Support" or, "No support." The only person that cares is yourself.
    2. Please do not copy and edit a few things from other applications- This not only harms your own chance at being a moderator, but also is annoying to others. People call this plagiarism, and it won't be accepted. You make your own application, not copying someone else's own application.
    Ok done ranting.
     
  2. Chiyami
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    I think Satan's said that before, but much harsher and in a huge paragraph.
    Also, 1st, Lemo bb ilysmmmm <###
     
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    I agree. Yes, I do tend to help in global chat, but I also do using /msg. Depends if I am in a rush or not, if I am in a rush, I mess up the /msg command.
     
  4. MikaMelody
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    The funny thing is that when people said:" i didn't see you helping, so no support"
    That's why you see many people helping in chat to gain some fame cause most them have a mod app
     
  5. Lemonade
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    Exactly my point here. Focus on helping, not glory.
     
  6. Adrian_Monk_
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    How about the glory of helping? :t
     
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    Honestly though, glory of helping, not helping for glory.
     
  8. Adrian_Monk_
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    Well put. Very well put.
     
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    Very true. I actually don't see much people in chat do that. But, if I did I would msg them personally and say Use /msg please. It's much easier to use. Because plus, chat is very spammy
     
  10. Adrian_Monk_
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    If someone asks a question about the rules in chat, and there are no mods on I'll answer in chat because that way if someone else has the same question they'd have an answer to it as well, but when helping players with things like giving them obby or helping on their island then /msg is definitely the way to go.
     
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    Well, thing about applying--you're probably most likely going to minimod. You're trying to help others, are you not? But anyways, if a moderator is on, most of the time it's not needed to minimod. When you're telling someone to stop spamming, or that something is illegal, you start getting into a pattern of just repeating the same things. (If you don't understand, I mean like in every situation you already have a pattern of what to say.)

    But anyways, yes, you should just help in message. Who cares if people can't see it or not? There's so many more reasons to support, you don't have to worry if people see you helping or not. I used to minimod, and I sometimes still do. But it's a lot like you're just showing off and you're just showing people how helpful you are so people will support you. If you think about it, if you message the person, they'll know it's directed to them.

    As for applications itself, no one should copy other's applications--yes. Even if you're getting tips from an accepted application or not, you can't copy anything. Take qualifications for instance, you have to write down what your qualifications are, because it actually is lying if you're making up qualifications/traits you know you don't have.
     
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    Couldn't have said so better myself.
     
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    Just because you do not see someone helping, doesn't mean they aren't helping.
     
  14. Lemonade
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    It shouldn't even matter if you see someone helping or not.

    I used to be a tryhard minimod that used to get on people's nerves a lot more. I then got some advice from a past moderate about helping in /msg. I took it to heart, and look where I am now.
     
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    Thank you for this omfg
     
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    True.
     
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    You can be a mod without being a mod. /ban is just a command. :p
     
  18. Lemonade
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    True, but there's much more behind it than that, if you understand what I mean :p

    And yeah, true, but it doesn't necessarily have to be in global chat
     
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    Firstly, Showing you are helping is logically going to help you get supporters. I have always told people "Show that you are assisting the community". Why? When it comes down to it, many players you will help do not have forums accounts and asking for supports is not a good look so you lack testimony.
    How can you get noticed if no one sees you helping?
    Mini-moderating can get frustrating but it helps a lot. I mean people who are not going for mod might find people doing it are try hards, or they keep asking people if they need help so they are just in it to get mod. But its ok. You do what you think you should do to get mod.
    If we cannot see what you are doing, chances are Cyp wont know and you remain a player with an app that was overlooked.

    Supports that are detailed, that provide cyp with information and feedback on a players server conduct is a vital part of getting selected amongst other things. So this is why supports count. You cannot say supports only matter to the person themselves; it is incorrect.

    So I completely disagree with the first point.

    The second point on plagiarism is a great point. When I was applying for mod I had a very long application. Now, someone decided to copy my entire application however failed to edit it properly. They had their application edited by mod and never was accepted as a mod. But the point is, it is wrong to copy someone elses work without permission. If given permission it is important to give credit where credit is due.
     
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    I definitely agree with you that showing you are helping is a good thing to do, sometimes it's hard to do that without seeming like you are trying to take over the job of the moderator. You get called a 'mini-mod' in chat, but eventually if you show you help out enough one day you might not be a 'mini-mod' anymore. Just because you don't see someone helping, doesn't mean they aren't in private messages. But I also believe it's good to publicly show that you are helping out. Otherwise, how will people know what kind of person you are. You would know more than me but, I think it's a necessary thing all applicants need to go through.
     

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