Comments on Profile Post by Sam

  1. Sam
    Sam
    Not allowed to appeal? He spent time and effort making that appeal and didn't break any rules making it.

    If the idea that he isn't allowed to appeal came from Cyp's mouth himself than he needs to foodling grow up.

    "Oh no, like 10 players off one of my servers play on another server similar to mine made by 2 of my ex-staff members, let's let my emotions get the best of me and permban them"
    Dec 26, 2016
  2. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    Without clicking: The thread title seems... descriptive? I may be wrong.
    Dec 26, 2016
  3. Sam
    Sam
    Cyp claimed pc copied his server and banned him
    Dec 26, 2016
  4. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    Someone banned CypriotMerks? How did THAT turn out? o_O
    Dec 26, 2016
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  5. Sam
    Sam
    Cypriotmerks banned Crimsonwrath/pc
    Dec 26, 2016
  6. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    Sorry, I grammar'd the hell out of that. So Cyp > Crimsonwrathpc and who is upset?

    This might be easier if I read the thread.
    Dec 26, 2016
  7. Sam
    Sam
    I think it would be easier as well
    Dec 26, 2016
  8. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    So, synopsis: Someone copied SkyBlock, advertising happened, players left this server and went to the other one. Banning ensued.

    Am I close...?
    Dec 26, 2016
  9. Sam
    Sam
    Close
    Cyp says the server was copied, pc claims it was not. You got the rest of it though minus players didn't completely leave and just played both
    Dec 26, 2016
  10. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    Is it a skyblock-themed server...? Trying to sort out the problem here.
    Dec 26, 2016
  11. Sam
    Sam
    It is, keeping the idea you're building an island in the sky(which many servers have done), but the rest is pretty much different from this server
    Dec 26, 2016
  12. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    The oldest mention of "skyblock minecraft" I can find is from 2012 and it seems to point directly to this server. Is this the ORIGINAL server for this idea...? If so, doesn't that mean the rest are copies?
    Dec 27, 2016
  13. Sam
    Sam
    I couldn't tell you the answer to that honestly
    Dec 27, 2016
  14. Teeeb
    Teeeb
    Skyblock wasn't the first "Skyblock" server. This is bullshit honestly.
    Dec 27, 2016
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  15. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    I'm new to this whole game. What was the first "block in the sky"-style server?
    Dec 27, 2016
  16. Teeeb
    Teeeb
    I'm not sure.
    Dec 27, 2016
  17. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    Annoying. That would have been an easy answer: Just go see how THAT server handled someone copying their idea. That would set a precedent for how knock-offs are handled.
    Dec 27, 2016
  18. Teeeb
    Teeeb
    Mineverse being blacklisted, has caused it to lose lots of players and therefore no more rank purchases, Cypriot cannot afford to have more people find a different server. XD
    Dec 27, 2016
  19. Sam
    Sam
    I'm currently on my phone, but if I get the chance I'll look around and see if I can find anything tomorrow
    Dec 27, 2016
  20. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    I'm interested, let me know what you find.
    Dec 27, 2016
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  21. Kristi
    Kristi
    The other server that is run by Pc & Yoshi is completely different from this server. They haven't done nothing or "stealing" players from here. It was all merely friends that have come from noticing the Ip in one of their Skype profiles. Everything is the same in the sense of these being skyblock servers, but if you look at the other aspects on their server you can tell it's very different from this server.
    Dec 27, 2016
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  22. Kristi
    Kristi
    I wish they checked out everything before coming to the conclusion that the owners were "copying" the server.. >.<
    Dec 27, 2016
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  23. Kristi
    Kristi
    Also, they took care of the advertising problem that happened with players because they know it was a wrong thing for some of them to be doing & mentioning the ip while being on a different server.
    Dec 27, 2016
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  24. KrymZ
    KrymZ
    This server's definitely gone to full s*** after it started losing players.
    Dec 27, 2016
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  25. Kristi
    Kristi
    Yeah I miss the server back during 2013. :p
    Dec 27, 2016
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  26. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    Did anyone ever look into what the original "block in the sky" server was? All I am finding are references to SkyBlock.net -- that's kind of important to any argument involving a "copy" allegation.

    Was this the first ever..?
    Dec 27, 2016
  27. Sam
    Sam
    I still plan to look into it, but I just woke up and haven't had the chance to.
    Dec 27, 2016
  28. Cheesy
    Cheesy
    Just so you all know if you didn't know, Noobcrew was the creator of the concept of skyblock meaning this is the 'father' of all skyblock servers technically. So I guess he could say it's a copy, but then again there are so many skyblock servers out there. Just FYI.
    Dec 27, 2016
  29. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    That's what I found, Mr. Cheesy. So if this is the original skyblock concept then any other "block in the sky" server is a copy.

    Doing something different (switching materials or plugins) makes it a derivative, but not unique. Actually, I wonder: Let me check the US patent office website.

    [EDIT:] Pity, no patent filed. Wouldn't THAT have been nuts?
    Dec 27, 2016
  30. Sam
    Sam
    It would have been
    That would cause many servers trouble and would probably create a lot of hate towards Cyp
    Dec 27, 2016
  31. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    To be clear: We established all "block in the sky" servers are derivatives of this one? Now this discussion comes down to player swapping?
    Dec 27, 2016
  32. Cheesy
    Cheesy
    Yes. I suppose it does. And the fact of the matter is the only advertisements were made by other players than the ones that are banned and the only advertisement the creators of the server did was advertise on skype, which is not involved at all with this server. I see no reason to have them banned.

    And then again, the ban message says 'Go copy another server'. So it should have nothing to do with player stealing?
    Dec 27, 2016
  33. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    What's the character limit on ban messages...?
    Dec 27, 2016
  34. Sam
    Sam
    Depends on the ign as you have to fit it all after "/ban (ign)"
    If you want to test out in vanilla minecraft how much you can fit afterwards, feel free
    Dec 27, 2016
  35. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    Can't be that long, then. 60 characters? 75? You would really have to condense a whole background of detail into something like a seven word message.

    Twitter approves?
    Dec 27, 2016
  36. Sam
    Sam
    I feel as though getting straight to the point in a ban message would be a good idea. Rather than having a message that is broad and misleading.
    Dec 27, 2016
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  37. Cheesy
    Cheesy
    Couldn't he have been told in the to check forums pm and Cyp could have written out why he was banned there? really easy save.
    Dec 27, 2016
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  38. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    I have no idea how to distill an entire volume of commentary into a one line ban message. I like the idea of a DM, though: Did you send a conversation request?
    Dec 27, 2016
  39. Cheesy
    Cheesy
    I don't believe he did, but honestly it's really confusing what he WAS actually banned for. Considering all of the skyblock servers 'copied' and created over the years and never once was there this drama. Or is it that he's 'player stealing'/advertising even though the only place he advertised was unrelated with the server at all.
    Dec 27, 2016
  40. Cheesy
    Cheesy
    The people that advertised the server on .net, do deserve a ban, but not the owner of the server. It's like I kill someone that works at a different fast food restaurant and my boss or the CEO of my company are sentenced to life in prison. It doesn't make sense?
    Dec 27, 2016
  41. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    Wow, that is intense. I was looking at this like competing ice cream stores on the same street. You're at the "murdering fast food workers" level. #McDeath

    From a military perspective I find this line of argument interesting. Is the person in charge responsible for the actions of their members...?
    Dec 27, 2016
  42. Sam
    Sam
    That's a good question for thought. There was a problem with some staff advertising about a year ago here, so I guess if the person in charge is being held accountable here, that'd make things a bit complicated
    Dec 27, 2016
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  43. Cheesy
    Cheesy
    I wouldn't say so? That doesn't make sense in my opinion. And it's not stated anywhere in the rules that it is?
    Dec 27, 2016
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  44. Myrmidous
    Myrmidous
    •wince• I try to avoid any argument that starts with "The rules don't EXACTLY say..."

    Not sure how much more I can contribute to this discussion. I tend to think in black-and-white terms on topics like this and it sounds like we have different perspectives.

    Best of luck. +1 to you both for an adult conversation.
    Dec 27, 2016
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  45. Cheesy
    Cheesy
    Adult conversation? I've definitely seen adults having a conversations but it ain't pretty and civilized like this one.
    Dec 27, 2016
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  46. poggers
    poggers
    Foodles
    Dec 29, 2016
  47. MyNamesJeff
    MyNamesJeff
    i bet if crimsonrath never came on the server cyp wouldnt have gave a crap.
    Dec 30, 2016
  48. Sam
    Sam
    crimsonwrath was a mod for cyp for 3 years lmao
    you think he would have more respect for him after that
    Dec 30, 2016