Guys, is it not obvious? Is it not obvious that the rules and punishment system here is inadequate? Is it not? Calling someone a b*tch or another phrase of equal meaning, and telling someone to kill themselves warrants a warning. Let's think about that for a second. A warning. Not a mute, a warning. Oh let's see, you insulted someone with a derogatory phrase, looks like you'll get a friendly reminder for that! Something wrong with the picture? I do agree. But wait, here's the best part. So many people have gotten warned over and over yet don't get punished until it's a last resort. No consistent system? Hm. Red flag maybe? Moving on, the staff. (Please note this is not hating, I do not mean any sort of personal offense.) Most of them were probably popular users at some point before. Earlier I made a thread on the popularity issues on here. Well clearly the staff are also part of the popular crew, and not just for their staff rank. They also engage in conversation not entirely appropriate for children to see. There are kids on here you know. Those innuendos? Yes, we unpopular and unnoticed users can indeed see them. We are not blind, and yes, we understand them. Almost every large, successful server would not have phrases like these just casually floating around. Or maybe not so casually, as every time I log on it's almost guaranteed I'll see one of these phrases from the more noticed users. (The more noticed users part is a whole other story, one that I have covered). I'll just put this out there. The Skyblock punishment system absolutely sucks. You think I'm the only one who says this? You are quite wrong. So many people agree with me. And you know what? I frankly could not care less about who says what and to whom that person says it to. Doesn't bother me. But it's the system as a whole that needs to be fixed or revamped.

(Please note, I mean no harm and would only like to improve the system. Of course, this can only take effect if the "popular users" would join in. Obviously they won't since this whole thing works in their favor.)

 

What?

 

What I'm saying is that the punishment system here sucks. No clear boundaries for rules, rules are illogical, and the staff favors people.

 

Lol I agree.

 

I think this goes both ways, honestly. Some mods wont ban to save their lives, some are ban happy. I cant think of any solutions to this, lol

 

Everyone obviously moderates differently.
Most mods on here aren't as strict, I do think some of them could up their game a bit and could punish a bit differently. But sometimes there are just one mod on, and they get caught up in the spam, their friends, and how many people need their help, it just gets hectic and they don't see everything.
I've gone onto some other servers, one with Lemonade, and the rules aren't good at all, the staff on one of them ignores everyone, gives warnings for everyone to see, tells everyone to go on the forums if they have a basic question and warn you for cussing even in /msg.
Honestly, in my opinion, staff here tops other server's staff. Sure we could use some tweaks, but we're also complaining about everything too much.

 

I agreed with the title, but none of your embellishments. xD

 

I don't understand how the system here is terrible. If you're referring to us only warning someone for inappropriate language, we can't assume they know the rules by heart like most people here. There are many servers that are different than skyblock rules-wise, and people need to notice that. The only way people will learn is either 1) by their mistakes, or 2) memorizing the rules by heart.

I don't find an issue with a punishment system here. Advertising, ban. Threats, ban. Scam, ban. Griefing, ban. Language, warning/mute/tempban depending.
There isn't going to be a specific case for every single scenario, nor will there ever be. How are rules illogical? What doesn't make sense about them? And who does the staff favor? Because quite frankly, I don't favor anyone.

 

This guy is quite obviously going out on a pointless rant, there isn't even a structure to his argument. However, he does have the foundations of what could be a point. Some staff do ban differently to others and unlike mineverse, there isn't a huge guideline upon how a ban should be made, only basic sensibility.

 

That part is true, yes. That had always been an issue for new moderators, as well as senior ones.

 

You are saying this in quite a rude manner.
And your statement by "popular people" is not true.
No "popular person" can change the rules, nor can they actually avoid a ban if they broke a rule. There is literally no rules that work in their favour. If there ever is, it's the mod's fault, not the person.

Like Lemonade said, I don't understand what you said. You are practically saying staff is being biased towards "popular people". I'm not sure of who you are to say all this. I can tell that you have not played for long because you said the statement "I'm sure they were popular people at some point". How do you know that?

You basically just can't go on a rant on how the popular people are being treated differently. Just because you don't see them being punished, doesn't mean they weren't. Take Mechanism (no disrespect, mech), as an example. He's "popular" isn't he? Do you see him being treated differently? No. I'm not sure if you even know him or not. He was banned several times, muted several times, until the point where his account was permanently banned.

If you think the staff favours people, why don't you give us an example? Such as which staff and which player? I think it's pretty obvious, that if staff favours certain people, that "staff" would've been non-staff by now.

And about what you said, how staff is saying things not appropriate for kids? What was it? Where have you seen it? I simply don't like people complaining about how everything is bad, while their knowledge of it is only to one side.

Lastly, just because they make a tiny mistake, doesn't mean you go "Oh, you're a bad moderator, you need to be demoted." or "This server has bad moderators; it needs a purge". As Lemonade said, the only way people would learn is through their mistakes. No one, literally no one could make absolutely zero mistakes in their moderator-ship. They warn people for saying derogatory terms in order to keep everything in order, because a kick may cause MORE derogatory terms to be said, and an immediate punishment without warning is like sending someone to jail without trial.

 

Let me rephrase that. I'm referring to the people that use inappropriate language and learn from their mistakes
But I guess both ways could work

 

I dont agree
but hey,everybody got their own opinions!

 

There are mods for a reason. Every situation is different. If that weren't the case they could just code the server to automatically give out bans/kicks/mutes for everything.
Also I've seen multiple threads of yours doing nothing but ranting about how bad the server is. If you hate it so much why are you here?

 

So what you are saying is that just because someone says something they really shouldn't, because there are indeed people who shouldn't/don't want to see it, automatically means instant ban?

Like what if it is an accidental cuss word?

*BAN*

No...

You are not making any sense. The warnings are to remind of the rules. They are there as a mold to hold the community together. Sometimes these warnings are handed out by other moderators, and it can happen by multiple people. What do you expect? That the mods just remember every single person they warn? Some of these mods are on both ORG and NET. Do you expect them to remember who said what on each server?

For that, I really think you need to re-evaluate this post and maybe think before you type things out because this just does not make any sense.

And like Krissy said...

 

Eh hmm I'll post a few milicents of my 2 cents

Swearing and other "derogatory" terms. Some may mute instantly but in some cases cases it's just a convo between two friends. We do give a warning first and then a mute if they continue, but when it gets busy we do go straight to mutes occasionally.

The popularity contest hmm.. if you ask around, many players probably never heard of me until they need me. I'm more of a quiet but I'm there for you if you need help mod. All mods were once players. And yes they are quite influential people. Players look up to them, ask them for help, and in some ways they do represent the server. But keep in mind, we were once players, and we give up time to help moderate the server and keep it a decent community. The server isn't a school, rules are enforced but we also empathize. You realize how many refunds are just mods being generous? How many hours we spend helping out, rather then actually playing on the server? But that's the sacrifice we give up, to help the server flourish.

And then the innuendos you speak of... well most of us are teenagers. In staff chat wise our chats are lax. But in global when staff could be talking to their friends, innuendos may appear. But if you think about it, innuendos don't actually mean you're talking about something dirty. Only if you have a knowledge of it beforehand and a dirty mind would you find it an innuendo. If "kids" (young enough to be called kids) see it, they shouldn't be able to understand it

 

Double post.

 

Shhhhh on mobile

 

1) I am a female tyvm. 2) I wrote this on a whim. Of course it's not going to be well-constructed. What is this? Midterms?

Okay, have you seen some other servers' rules? The actual large, successful ones? And LOL the "accidental" swear. Oh hey, it just slipped out! I think you are the one with an illogical argument. And krissy, I have never said once that I will stop playing. I'm just saying the rules make no sense, but really I couldn't care less.

Oh yeah, I could easily ask some people to also do some fake reporting too. Wouldn't that be a refreshing view on your evidence policy?

(Again, I mean no hate, nor do I intentionally hate on anything I post. Sorry if it comes off that way)