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  1. DarthBread
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    So recently a school district in my area was being sued because of a pregame prayer circle before a high school football game

    High School football prayer lawsuit dismissed - WTOC-TV: Savannah, Beaufort, SC, News, Weather & Sports

    The organization responsible for the suit says that it is unfair for those belonging to other religions and that these prayer groups should not be allowed since they exclude some students. Those in these groups say that they should be allowed since the US Constitution gives them the right to practice any or no religion freely.

    The purpose of this thread is to hear your opinions. What do you think? Who do you believe should win? I'll give my opinion later I guess
     
  2. Crawling
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    It's perfectly fine to do that. If they are all of the same religion and want to do something like that, by all means do it. I personally don't care if someone worships Satan or whoever, as long as they aren't extremely open about it in front of me.
     
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    Government-sponsored worship should not be allowed, and the same goes with public school-sponsored religious activities. Students can pray in a group or individually but not through a school-sponsored program. It is unconstitutional for the government to interfere with religion, so it can neither promote or reject a religion. Yes, some schools do offer classes like comparative religion, but the approaches are objective and educational (or at least they should be).
     
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    This specific case was just a group of students privately praying, the school or government had nothing to do with it
     
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    "The group claimed the Hall County School District promoted prayer and Christianity through it's athletic programs."
     
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    You can claim whatever you want lol. This happens at my school too and the school has no involvement. Just several players together
     
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    How can you be so sure that the school was not involved?
     
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    Think the principal just goes up and tells the players to pray? lol
     
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    There's schools that are strictly catholic schools and are required to go to mass once a week during school. The athletic teams pray before and after games too.
     
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    It doesn't look like it from the plaintiff's point of view. What kind of principal goes up to a group of students and tell them to pray? That is unprofessional. My school used to sponsor a Christian student group, and it pissed me off so much. Glad they stopped sponsoring it.
     
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    That's different ;p. Its a private school, they can do whatever the hell they want
     
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    There's a huge difference between school-sponsored worship in public schools and private, religious schools.
     
  13. MyLovelyAviLumps
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    Ah I guess I didn't fully understand the situation.
     
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    I'm not worried so much about the school sponsoring it as much as the fact that many are trying to squash just kids praying before a game. Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion
     
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    The plot of the story involves them believing that the worship was being sponsored by the school, and they were worried about the school sponsoring worship through athletic programs. I don't blame them for being skeptical. Although it's not hurting anyone, it can be an eyesore and causes irritation for many people.
     
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    Society we live in I guess. A few kids praying is "offensive" nowadays. Smh
     
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    Suing over petty little things like this is even more pitiful.
     
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    *Sigh*
     
  19. GTechNerd
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    *founds an ant in drink* *sues even though will swallow thousands of bugs throughout lifetime*
    'Murica is the land of lawsuits, I will tell ya.
     
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    Food for thought. Separation of church and state was originally implemented to protect against congress interfering with a churches establishment. It is not to protect against government fused associations promoting religion. After all, is our Constitution no based upon the belief in God? While I am not religious myself it interests me to see how something can be taken and twisted to further the agenda of someone who wants the polar opposite of what it was intended for. Seperation of church and state was not even originally in the Constitution to begin with.
     

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