Regarding Griefing

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  1. HarpyHunter
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    Is there no way to install a feature where players who are NOT part of a coop cannot destroy/change blocks on an island they don't own?
     
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    Krissy Stray Kids everywhere all around the world Administrator Discord Administrator Premium Premium

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    This requires world guard most likely and that would cause lag apparently.
    This has been suggested many times and nothing can really be done except taking precautions.
     
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    What precautions can I take, as I've been griefed a number of times now?
     
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    Dont let people on your island you dont trust is the biggest one.
    Lock things
    smaller islands
     
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    Hm, I don't allow anyone on my island I don't trust, I only have coop / invite ppl I know IRL.
    All my chests (almost, except for ones with just wood supplies etc) are locked.
    And if I restrict myself to a tiny island, what is the point of playing at all? If I can't build the things I want to, surely the game itself is... Pointless?
     
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    What confuses me most is how people actually gain access to my island, but my main guess is that it's the fly feature that is available for purchase (quite cheaply!), as there's never any evidence of bridging etc.
     
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    I did some reading up on features such as world guard! Any (almost all) lag caused by world guard can be countered by purchasing bigger servers / higher quality servers, the amount of griefing possible is highly offputting, and is a major flaw IMO.
     
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    By small i dont mean tiny. Everyone makes the mistake of thinking you need to expand right out. You really dont need to.
    I can only say you have log off griefers, people that use /fly or /jump, friends tp'ing people or someone who breaks the bridges before they get caught.

    If crew wants to upgrade the server size he would but i believe the size is as big as it can get. Adding such protection now might break coops and require a restart. The lag is more of a put off than griefers.

    Protection is on org so thats where people go when they are sick of griefs usually or prefer economy and small communities
     
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    Yeah, one solution would be to play on skyblock.org (our other server)
    where worldgaurd exists
     
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    But I've donated $100 on .net, so, refund me $100 and I'll play on .org lol
     
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    Worldguard: Adding world guard would require a complete server restart or months of work protecting millions of islands around the server world.

    How to stop a Greif: Don't teleport/invite anyone you don't know to your island and lock everything valuable.

    How to fix a grief: Make sure you have screenshots and proof of the island/items before the grief, ask a mod to give you a rollback or manual refund which allows you to fix your island manually.
     
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    Then why don't they put the effort into that? This server is technically a business, and I really feel taken advantage of. and if there was a way of getting my money back, I'd have it.

    As I have already said, I do not teleport / invite anyone I do not know IRL to my island, everything valuable is already locked, but I cannot lock mob spawners and every single block that makes up the floor in grass blocks.

    I posted a report of a grief today at 2:38 pm, and have been on and off the server literally every hour waiting for mods, and have had no semblance of help.
     
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    Actually, beacons, mob spawners, blocks around beacons, and really anything can be locked. There's a simple trick to do it that works very efficiently.

    First off, get a trapdoor, a wool block (it doesn't have to be wool, but it can't be like a chest or a furnace, and a sign. Here are some steps:
    1. Place the block on a diagonal from the block you're locking (let's say in this case, it's a spawner.)
    2. Now place the trapdoor behind that diagonal block, next to the spawner. Actually, let's say that X is the spawner, O represents the spaces around the spawner, W represents the block and H represents the trapdoor:
    OOO
    OXH
    OOW

    3. Now, to the left of the 'W' (the block) place a sign on the spawner. Now don't type anything, and hit 'esc' out of
    the sign. Now it should be privated :p
     
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    I don't understand why it is still such a large issue for you. Many, if not most of the players can make sure there valuables are protected so when a grief happens only bad things are taken, even if you have done this and made a report about a grief just wait. There are mods but there are more than a 500 players that could need help at any one time, they do there best.
     
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    check out skyblock.org you'll love it
     
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    There are several ways that people grief:

    1) The number 1 reason for griefing is TP'ing people to your island. Could be for a trade, or could be to play in a casino, or to help you build etc.
    Never let anyone know the coordinates to your island. It requires discipline which means you can never invite anyone to your coop, or TP anyone for a trade, or show anyone your casino etc. As the famous quote goes "Once you tell 1 person a secret it's no longer a secret".
    If you do /coop people, make sure that they adhere to the same rules, as above, bearing in mind that they as potential vectors for griefing.
    Even if you make sure that they have left your island once your business is complete, there's no way to be sure that they haven't set home in one of your beds or simply remembered the coordinates on a piece of pen and paper.

    2) The next most common way to get griefed is by people bridging over.
    Unfortunately there's not much you can do about this except perhaps to build a lava wall around your island. This will deter any griefers since it raises the bar to the point where they'd need /fly, or a potion of fire resistance to pass. Seems like a whole lot of work for a small amount of reward, but nonetheless it helps

    Things you can do to prevent griefing:
    1) Lock everything valuable. See above for instructions how
    2) Take regular screenshots
    3) Set traps on your island

    If this really bothers you, you can always move to a different set of coordinates if you feel that you or a coop have compromised the coordinates to other people.
     
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    1: it isn't a business, it is a small community with people donating, (donating means it is fully optional, and there is no refund).

    2: you can lock any block, and I know you said you don't want anyone on your island, I will help you lock everything you want.

    3: mods are humans, and as such they can't be anywhere, everywhere, anytime, all the time. They handle hundreds of things everyday spanning from griefing, to bridging, to scamming, to hacking illegally. They will get to your illegally. I asked a mod for help yesterday, and it took them around 20 mins to get to me. They are busy, but they will help eventually. Mind you, on the forums, there isn't only .net mods on, and only .net mods can handle .net problems. An hour isn't the longest someone had to wait, I've seen some waiting for over a week
     
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