Suggestions - Disallow the short replies.

Discussion in 'Other/Uncategorized Suggestions Archive' started by salamander9o, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. salamander9o
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    Please note that TheRedFacedOne - commonly known as TheWay2Cool1 amongst the older members - suggested this earlier, however said suggestion is fairly old and I would not like to bump it, Proceeding on to the main issue at hand.

    In many, most, actually, suggestion threads, you mostly just see "yeah good idea support" or something along the lines of the statement above. This is pointless. These threads are to discuss possible features to the server, and what are you adding on to the discussion by simply adding "support"? Nothing but your seal of approval, which means nothing unless it is expanded upon. Why do you like this idea? Why is it useful? Nothing of that sort is stated when merely saying "support, cool idea".

    Suggestions section is abused by those who are post-hungry. Skim the suggestion and say "support/no support". Boom! +1 useless post!

    If such a rule making it so you must actually SAY why the suggestion receives your approval, not that it just does, would greatly improve things*. CypriotMerks and Noobcrew would then be able to see what is good about this suggestion, because at times, the suggestion as a whole isn't that good, however some of it, is.


    *Of course, "support this is a good idea because it's cool" would not be allowed.

    All in all, here are the good and bad things with this suggestion.

    Good:
    -Eliminate useless "support" with no given reason;
    -Eliminate some of the post farming that goes on for whatever reason;
    -Would make suggestion threads more of a discussion that a post farm.

    Bad:
    [I have yet to think of any cons]

    Please, down below let me know what you think would be good and bad about this suggestion.

    If I see any "support" or "no support" - just - I will make sure it is deleted. Please do not say that simply to annoy me, that's not cool.

    TL;DR: Remove useless "support" on suggestion threads. Make it so you must give valid reasoning behind your support, the reasoning not being "support cool idea".

    Thank you for reading.
     
  2. Jolie
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    support
    *insert no reason why* :t

    Well it does get really annoying when people post farm and comment on every. little. thing.

    edit// but also there are times when everyone has stated the details thoroughly enough that not everyone has to state the same thing so it's simple enough to just say 'support'.
     
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    I do support this, although I don't know if the rule would be strictly enforced.

    I'm not bothered by "Support" on suggestions, but moderator apps bother me. If someone replying to a mod app says "Support", it's not helping the applicant. If someone took the time to write a legit reason, admin would have more information to make their decision.
     
  5. salamander9o
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    I don't really mean for this to be super strict, just for it to be classified as spam, so just a simple delete, no warning.

    I also agree with you on the moderator applications.
     
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    I support this too because I hate when people say they support something but give NO valid reason to support it.
     
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    Problem is (and you should know this) that if it's repeated, example: people who go to a bunch of mod apps and say "support" on a bunch of them, then it would become a punishable offense. I for one would like to eliminate the show of support through posts. I think if you support the app, you should just give it a like. If you feel they need to alter/add/subtract something, THEN comment on it.
    As far as other sections go, I don't care for one word responses to regular topics as it seems lazy, but sometimes there's not much to say. All in all, I don't care much for this suggestion. Someone posts "k" and all of a sudden we'd get reports for someone saying "k". Very unnecessary.
     
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    I do know that. I did not say that repeated offenses would not be punished. I stated that if done once it's just a delete, since no more action has to be taken, since it's very minor.

    I would like to say thank you for all opinions thus far.
     
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    but liking as a way of support could eventually become like farming and eventually cause problems. They could just add a support and no support rating that was neutral and only affected the thread.
     
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    No Support~

    I think saying no support and support is fine.. Sometimes when you say why, you're just mimicking what someone has said earlier in the thread of maybe what the thread creator had said. Sometime people say "Support for reasons above" which I think is perfectly fine.
    Sorry
     
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    "Support for the reasons above" I did not mention as an act that would be classified to this. Simple "support" with no given reason should be disallowed.
    "Support for the reasons above" would be naturally acceptable, as it's simply a way to remove longer posts.
    Thank you for your two cents, however.
     
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    Yeah I'm glad that support for reasons above is allowed but as for just "support"... Ehh i see your point and in kinda 50/50 for it now ;)
     
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    50/50 on this.
     
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    Could you explain why not and why yes?
     
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    ^^Basically. You have the people who just post farm, which is why this rule would work well; however you also have times when the idea is explained to the point where there's nothing to really point out, except you like it. However, if someone says no support, they should explain it, and I can quite happily stand by that; in which case if there is no explanation given for no support, there should be some sort of warning eg. "Edit a reason, or risk forfeiting this post".

    This would also be useful on moderator applications, as you get the people who just say "no support" simply because you didn't support them and/or they didn't like you. It would clear a lot of things up to be honest.
     
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    Basically what Matt said, beat me to it.
     
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    Understood.
    Thanks for your opinion.
     
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    I think this'd be good on mod apps, or at least saying who you agree with and why.
    Suggestions though, I don't think it'd be worth it.
     
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    Could just do what the off topic forum has, posts dont count towards overall post count. Add this to the suggestions only because mod apps are fine, its obvious if you are post farming.
    That will actually see who really wants to post and who doesnt.
    Plus imo its simpler to do.
    Or implement it in mod apps is probably better, leave it in suggestions and mods can remove the unexplained suggestion supports.
     
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    I don't think it should be implemented for suggestions, but for mod apps.
     

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