Okay so I'm a little bit confused on the rights and things for ex-coops

Basically just went through a very confusing ordeal where a Coop was back visiting the island. Unfortunately i couldn't see them because of this weird MC version glitch thing. (I'm on 1.8.1) They (charisma) in chat was getting upset saying someone had destroyed their house. I fly over and see the blocks getting hit.

Then I seen they had TP'd another player without my permission by the name of _RainbowDashie__ or just Dashe. THey started removing blocks too.. That is when I messaged the MOD Blaq.

Blaq did tell me that technically I guess because they built it even though they left the coop still have rights to the materials. I guess I just figured that if people decide to leave an island whatever you leave behind is your choice to take away those rights. Anyways… I took a few shots of the player that Charisma TP'd over.

Also if was MOD Blaq told me is correct then what am i to do with this half wrecked out? As an island owner shouldn't I be able to take it down myself or even fix it so it doesn't look like an eye sore?? Starting to worry now about how much rights I have as island owner as I'll always break certain blocks I don't like made by other players


PS. its not letting me upload photos here

 

Firstly, blaq. ^^

My opinion on this matter is that for issues like this, it is up to the coop members to sort it out. The island leader should have control over what the members do on the island, along with the authority to kick them for a valid reason.

I believe that it is the responsibility of the island leader to consider carefully who they invite & how they control the island. On the other hand, the members have a duty of keeping promises with the island leader - whatever they may be.

As for the issue at hand, I'd say the island leader takes half of the blame, since it's their fault for choosing the "wrong" players to join their island. As for the other half, it'd be on the old members - I agree with blaq that they have the right to take their items on leaving, but those players should've known that on ocassions like this, they should leave cleanly, with only their items from chests with them. They should've acknowledged this fact upon joining the island.

Just my opinion on this matter... :/ I guess for issues like this, it's really debatable...but the coop members should've sorted it out before joining/inviting.

 

The one rule that trumps all is that the island leader is first and final say in all matters regarding the island.

This means that they may invite or kick any players they wish, or make rules regarding their island (so long as they don't contradict the existing Skyblock rules).

jess1ortiz this means that in this case, the moment TehCyfer left your island, the items that he left behind became the property of the islands, and by extension yours. If out of the goodness of your heart you decided to allow him back to remove his items, that's fair play. However, if you chose not to, you are not at fault either.

The most extreme example of this is a leader who invites players over to their island, only to kick them out nearly instantly and claim all their stuff. While this is certainly not good form at all, it does not break any rules, since players join a coop at their own risk (and know that they can be kicked and lose all their items at any stage).

So in short, if you leave a coop:
1) Remove anything that is yours before you leave, not after
2) After you leave any block you break/take on the old island can be considered griefing
3) It is entirely up to the island leader of the coop whether or not to let you have your stuff back, except for illegal to trade items which must follow their owner always.

Remember, griefing is considered taking or making changes to any blocks more than 49 blocks away from your /home in the x and z coordinate, regardless of whether you own or used to own those items. It is NOT taking/making changes to blocks that you do not own.

 

I absolutely agree, that most of the time it's best to let the island coops work it out, after all, they were coops for a length of time. However, an island leader does not need a valid reason to kick or invite anyone, and coops join at their own risk. Perhaps the island owner should have laid down more concrete rules on leaving the coop, but in absence of them, Skyblock rules prevail

 

Mmhm~ But isn't there a rule against kicking coops without reason? I mean, technically speaking, that could be seen as 'looting'. :/

 

No. And while I feel it's unfair/looting etc, coops do join at their own risk. That's the fact of Skyblock. There's no way that mods can go around reading the intentions of players going "they invited them for the purpose of xxx".
Yes, it's underhanded, yes it's mean, but no, its not illegal and no it's not looting, sadly.

 

To directly answer your question and make it clear, you can do whatever you want with it. If you wish to save some of the items to refund him out of the goodness of your heart feel free to, but otherwise, do what you will.

 

TehCyfer

 

I only Coop with my IRL friends so that I can kick their a** if they troll the island!

~Slick

 

I did not kick them for no reason.. they left on their own will

 

So then am I cleared of this? Charisma was turning this into a bigger ordeal than it should have been. Idk why neither charisma or the person they TP'd over _rainbow_dashie__ was not banned.

And I always go over my rules of the island with them. If they leave all i ever ask is that they give me the heads up so I know and that they are able to take any things they want with them. I am not that selfish of a leader. Had Charisma wanted to take the materials they bought with their own grass I would have understood, but instead they acted out in anger and began just breaking everything.

I was just really upset they did not try to talk about anything first. And the MOD Blaq was trying to tell me that it would be fair that since he built it he could do whatever he wanted with it even if they left the coop. (very frustrating)

Also another thing that Blaq was telling me that two Coop'd players on my island had also broke part of the ex-coop's home so technically THEY were griefing it. But I allow my cooped players to make changes to all parts of the island so how are they griefing?

 

As i said before, you're completely clear. I said it would be nice if you let him take what he bought, but that is completely up to you.

Also, regarding the 2 other people who broke the house, it is not griefing since they are part of the coop.

 

I was referring to Compassi and Rainbow themselves… and yea i told compassi the could come back but they got all sour about it.

 

How were u referring to compassi/rainbow? I don't quite understand.

 

I was referring to Compassi and Rainbow themselves… and yea i told compassi the could come back but they got all sour about it.

you said the two others that broke the house were not griefing because they are a part of the coop… but I'm saying that technically compassi and rainbow were griefing me