New update to the report/ban appeal sections

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Like the new report section?

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  1. Awesome!

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  2. Atrocious!

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  1. nfkb
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    I understand that, and that is what we are currently doing. Appeals and Reports is kind of like watching the News. In the news we find out who the criminals are so that we are aware if they ever break out again. Similar idea applies here. Reports and Appeals are like News to us to find out who are the 'SkyBlock Criminals' and so we are aware if they can break out again or not.

    You are basically restricting the news, kinda like North Korea. ;) haha
    Even the FBI or CIA doesn't hide these criminals...LOL ;)
     
  2. Incomposed
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    I understand the last part, but what if I was on my friends island and I see a player grief his island and loot his chest, I'm obviously gonna take screenies.
     
  3. CypriotMerks
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    Figure out what you'll do next once you got the evidence you need.
     
  4. nfkb
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    Make a report on his behalf.
     
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  6. bkleinman1
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    Then think about it this way:
    Continuing with your News analogy, having the reports/appeals in the old system, where anyone could post is like having a news programme in which all of the viewers of the News would decide that they didn't like what was being said, so they would go and jump in front of the camera and start telling a different story. Or in some cases, just randomly shout random words, being pointlessly annoying. How annoying would that be for the real News presenters? :p
     
  7. Sean
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    A lot of sections should be like this due to stop useless infractions, I never really understand why people were infracted for posting someone when it took 2s to remove the post.

    PLEASE DO THE SAME TO MOD APPLICATIONS!@!@!@!@!212112one!@!two12
    *Cough* >____>
     
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    Changed the donate page so it doesn't automatically redirect you to shop.skyblock.net page.
     
  9. bkleinman1
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    The posts in mod apps are a good representation on how other people on the server think of you. If you have an application in which 90% of the people have not supported with decent reasons, then that is a good indication to not promote someone. Doing the same to applications would never work.
     
  10. nfkb
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    I think you missed out on one of my comments I said earlier in one of the posts: Make it so only the user can post in that thread which is made by only that user. And restricting posts in other users's reports/appeals thread.

    With this keeping in mind, now think about the News Analogy. There is no telling of different story, there is no random shouts, no pointless and annoying folks, and no random people jumping into the post.

    And as per viewing and postings:

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    Allow - For all users to view thread (View Node - Allow for all users)
    Allow - For all users to make a new thread
    Never - For All users to post in a thread
    Can't that be done?
     
  11. bkleinman1
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    Yes, that could be done, but the problem there is that if the person who made the report then needs to make a second post in their report, they wouldn't be able to.
     
  12. nfkb
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    No they wouldn't. I'm sure you can click under node, and Set Specific permission for a user per-thread basis.

    And while at it, what about the Revoke permission? That can be implemented into the User Post Permission on a Per-thread basis as well, can't it?
     
  13. Crakrjack
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    I will mention again my case from back in February, where The_Dirty_Ninja incorrectly permabanned me and if not for the open process we had up until yesterday I would still be banned. The moderator was wrong in that case and it took members of the skyblock community to make him see it.
    The supporting of mods and their applications is a public process as bkleinman1 pointed out. I believe the public should also be able to scrutinize moderators on an ongoing basis much as we do our elected govenments, not just in game but in handling reports and appeals as well. I'm guessing that is why there is a section specifically for reporting moderators.

    Also, why do you make the archives private as they are closed for comment?
     
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    Isn't that why you have the forum rules and forum bans?
     
  15. nfkb
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    The question is: Can the staff members take on the scrutinization without being offended, and take it as something to improve on? I don't think so.

    Because every time that happens, or any loop hole is found within the legal system or the team, the users end up getting banned.
     
  16. gummybear fisherman
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    This is a terrible idea. I use the appeal forums to background check people which has saved me lots pf scams, and griefs. Not to mention I have helped many banned players who were banned unjustly get unbanned. Also hypothetically if I was reported I would be unable to voice my part of the story. If we always encourage safe trades, then at the VERY LEAST the appeal archives should be open
     
  17. CypriotMerks
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    You should be able to see the archives now for reports.
     
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    that inbox though x'D
     
  19. Sleepyhead08
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    I feel like this is just another attempt at becoming a socialist community.

    Someone spots something, or maybe even just want to frame someone for something.
    They do a quick /ping, screenshot it, and make a report.
    Now it is a one on one with a moderator.
    This player that is being reported cannot defend himself whatsoever, because he doesn't even know that the report is going on.
    The moderator sees the evidence with no counter evidence or a counter argument and bans the player.

    Think of a situation in which one person griefs another's island, so the player pours lava on the first player to stop him from griefing.
    The griefer may claim "Oh, look at these screenshots, he burned me to death."
    Now, the law abiding player will be banned and griefer will be allowed to continue to grief others.



    I definitely do not support this whatsoever. If people cannot restrain themselves from posting irrelevant things, then delete the posts. It's really just one button. It's not worth it. The benefits of leaving it public greatly outweigh the detriments.

    However, it's not like anyone will listen to the voice of reason around here... :L
     
  20. gummybear fisherman
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    I agree 100%.
     
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