New update to the report/ban appeal sections

Discussion in 'Discussions Archive' started by CypriotMerks, Nov 29, 2014.

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Like the new report section?

Poll closed Dec 2, 2014.
  1. Awesome!

    29 vote(s)
    47.5%
  2. Atrocious!

    32 vote(s)
    52.5%
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  1. poggers
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    I'm gonna go with no, I miss reading reports and ban appeals. Maybe have it locked for all players besides the thread creator and staff? Maybe have the username of the forum ID remain unknown.
     
  2. nfkb
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    But what if you don't have access to someone's ban appeal in the first place?

    CypriotMerks, its not about holding a grudge. Its about making The SkyBlock Community, a safer community. I, along with others, disagree with this decision of your, and I'm sure after Autumntheoneandonly Crakrjack and I pointed out some solid points, I hope you reconsider your decision.
     
  3. Krissy
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    I like the idea, its fine. Read only for anyone besides thread creator and staff is a good idea if it can be done.
     
  4. Crakrjack
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    but how would they know there even was a report, and how would they know which mod to message?
     
  5. Crakrjack
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    I don't think the votes should really play a part, it should be decided on what right and whats not. I see a lot of the people against it raising good arguments and most of the people agreeing with it saying no more than things like, looks good, I support, its fine, etc. with no real justification to why they think this.
     
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  6. Crakrjack
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    I agree with this Krissy, read only so still available for viewing by the public.
    Given this is kind of a third option that I feel should appeal to both sides of this discussion, the poll may not be relevant now.
     
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    this blows
     
  8. nfkb
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    Lol, It was us three that gave the real justification as to why we should go against it. And people seemed to be following us since then.
     
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    And support :D
     
  10. Crakrjack
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    True, Alot of the early 'For' votes came before we had our in put, now it's swinging.
    However I think the third option of having the reports and appeals public for viewing only, where people can msg a mod if they have relevant input can't being voted for in the poll.
    I think this solution should appeal to everyone while achieving what I think Cyp set out to achieve.
     
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  11. nfkb
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    I agree with you, but poll isn't really a great option for a feedback communication. If Cyp wants feedback, he should have added "Let me know: if you guys approve then just click "Agree" with my post, and if you don't agree, kindly give your justification as to why you don't and what possible implementations/solution is from your side we can add/remove."

    Not only this gives a good feedback communication, but it gives the public a chance to speak for themselves for the better of SkyBlock community. It also removes the bias that majority of the users have on the staff members.

    EDIT: Honestly, and I don't want to get off-topic, but majority of the users are under fear of being banned or looked down upon if they raise their own public voice...its like political psychology/inferiority complex/dictatorship?(wouldn't go this far though), where users are under fear of being banned from the staff if they raise their voice.

    I am NOT saying that staff is manipulating the users or not doing their job in protecting their community, they definitely are protecting the community for the betterment and ensuring all the measures for the safety of SkyBlock Community, and hats of to all of them working very hard!!! But the users need to get out of this fear, and staff should accept justification, rather than posts such as "Cyp, u rulz," "Support :heart:" etc.

    Like, WHY do you not like the new decision, give your own justification. Be open, and take a stance if you think its ONLY for the BETTER of SkyBlock Community. If someone agrees, then just simply like their posts, don't post such posts like "U rulz Cyp." etc. And because when majority of the users posts such posts, they, especially kids & young users, start having internal insecurity for their own voice/disagreement, and they either go with the flow, or just say "I'm bummed" without any solid justification.

    I have Majored in Psychology, and I have seen this trend in multiple threads and posts. I'm just expressing my honest opinions, to which I hope users & staff of SkyBlock community understands it in the correct perception.
     
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  12. Krissy
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    I dont think staff feedback counts too much
    and majority of this thread is you, crackr and a few others explaining no and debating
    so its not really clear.
    At least let it be trialed properly and i know a lot of you like to contribute to reports and appeals but lets see how it goes.
     
  13. nfkb
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    Read my Edit portion.
    And I'm not talking about just the staff's feedback, I am talking about the ENTIRE SkyBlock's community's feedback.
    And we're just giving a clear solid justification, and not just simply posting 'I disagree.'
     
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    50/50 ;0
     
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    Baaahnk you.
     
  16. CypriotMerks
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    Honestly I have already considered keeping this change permanently. Why? You do not need to view someone report thread even if it's on you it's between the reporter & moderators. Report threads should always be handled with one reply and not a discussion.

    If the reporter did not have solid evidence the player will not be banned.

    If the reporter posted solid evidence of the player breaking our rules the user will be banned/muted.

    It also seems people keep asking the same question "What if we're a witness?" it does not matter, that is not solid proof. I could have 5 of my friends say they witnessed the scam and what the player will be banned? No, does not work like that.
     
  17. bkleinman1
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    From what I have heard, there is no such add-on that will allow threads to be visible, while not being able to post in them, other than the post creator. (Ive not researched it, however)

    This leaves us with either they are available for everyone again, or they are left as they are at the moment.
    Having them available to only mods allows us to speed up the process, while in turn doing a better job. It is so much easier doing reports/appeals without other players giving their opinions, or posting randomly.
     
  18. CypriotMerks
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    Agreed and less forum bans. :)
     
  19. nfkb
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    While we may not need to view someone's report, but these reports help the rest of the SkyBlock Community know which players we should be trading cautiously. I don't see why this isn't being taken into consideration, when we are strongly encouraging players to trade safety & stressing the safeness of the SkyBlock Community. Ironic, don't you think?

    And yes, there is a way to just allow every user to make a thread, however, no posts can be made, besides the Staff only. And for users who made the thread can have special permissions to post only in that thread, not in others, but can view other threads made by other users. I'm pretty sure nearly all kinds forums across the internet have this feature. ;)
     
  20. bkleinman1
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    So long as you take screenshots of video proof of trades, you will be fine. With sufficient proof, we can refund, and we can punish the other player. Checking reports is not necessary.


    I have now researched it, and even opened a trial version of xenforo to check permissions, and still am unable to find anything that would accomplish this task.
     
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