What if you're the one who is being reported for false accusation? In that case, I should be allowed to view/post that particular appeal/report.

And why restrict the ability to view the appeals and reports? Just restrict the ability to post in that appeal/report unless you are the accused/staff/reporting player.

If there is a witness, send a PM to the staff, asking them/explaining them the full situation which can allow them to give that person access to that post then, if the staff finds it suitable.

 

I don't agree with this at all, I see many appeals in which pertinent details are added to cases by third parties. This will not be able to happen now, there will be no witnesses to reports and appeals as they will not know that there is report or appeal. The appeal and report systems should be open to the public as it is in any reasonable justice system. Making this process secretive is very wrong, unless you live in North Korea

I've reported so many people in the past for scamming and breaking the rules and when their appeals came up, I was able to add information that the moderators could not have known. Information that in some cases made the difference between them getting banned or not.

bkleinman1 said that people could add their parts through private message but in order to do so they need to see the facts or they will not know what has been covered.

If the reason is just to stop people posting where they shouldn't then make it so people can view reports and appeals but can only post in it if invited by the moderator handling the case, which can be done through private messaging.

 

Couldn't agree more what Crakrjack said.

Not only that, but this restricts us from being aware of who are possible scammers/griefers in our server. Even if they read the rules, get un-banned, many users keep repeating this mistake. We should have the right to be we aware of which players could be possible scammers/griefers/looters, which would make our trading a much more careful trading, and inviting specific players with caution.

Logs are starting to be practically useless these days, so some of these trades doesn't even show up on logs, which creates an hassle for certain users and mods. Not only trading, but if someone wants to invite a new player as their coop member or they want to see your island, they should have the right now know their "skyblock criminal background."

Reports & Appeals are more of a "skyblock criminal background check" for most players on here. And you're basically removing a our rights to know such information. This action is more of an action done by the people working in NSA(if you don't know what it is, then there is this magical thingy called "google,") & the government, unless you're working for them of course.

 

I feel they should be left for everyone to view for 2 Reasons.

1) I personally read these when someone I know gets banned so I can see how far my friend is from being unbanned (assuming they do). Also I read some that I feel is "interesting" of how they got banned or what they did to get banned.

2) I feel that these should be open so people that people who have ever considering causing a banning offence or if someone wants to know what the procedure is for each ban type since all of them are delt with differently. This can also help people who get banned for a common offence such as griefing so they can see what a quality ban appeal looks like and not just the template.

 

These last few posts have brought a good few points to mind. While I agree with the latest changes, I will speak to Cyp in a little bit about trying to find some kind of middle grounds to please as many people as possible.

 

But I like posting in ban appeals and reports I'm not related too D: Bat wurt about witnesses?

Oh hey… You're the guy who reported me! *loads shotgun*

 

This is Skyblocks legal system and making it more streamline and easier for the moderators is fine, but ultimately what is done to make this happen should not undermine the basic requirements of a legal system and you will find no decent legal system that is handled in secrecy.

Several months ago, The_dirty_ninja permabanned me as he believed I was guilty of Nick abuse, much of the support I got in proving I didn't do what he claimed came from the public who where on at the time in the way of screen shots. Much help came from moderators as well (Thanks to all of you) Under this system, that I see you have already implemented I would still be banned today quite unjustly.

We "The Skyblock community" deserve the right to have as much information as is required to report and appeal, making this secretive will only take witnesses, information, proof, etc from the moderators that need to pass judgement and this everyone must agree is far from ideal.

I'm sure there is a solution but this is certainly not it.

 

Cheers bkleinman1. I'm all for making this system better but ensuring it is right is the highest priority.

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Also keep in mind these last few posts that have brought 'a good few points to mind' have come from the public, the same public that have just been removed from the report and appeal process. We have input, good input, required input.
I'm sure that most moderators will agree that some of their decisions in banning or not banning have been aided in the past by members of the Skyblock public.

 

I dislike this idea. I feel there was very little thought put into this change

 

Not just reports but with ban appeals too.

 

What many of them said about witnesses, false accusations, and times when two people need to discuss a ban make me dislike the change.

 

Really cyp? You decide to hide ban appeals after my appeal got accepted. Fgt

 

Plus, I'll admit it, I'm a nosy brat

 

If it makes it easier for our moderators & administrators~ :3

 

Actually, on the contrary. This will cause a little rise in couple problems, as I list them out:

1. User's won't know how one should articulate a ban appeal. Remember, most of the players on SB are young, some are very very young. So this would have more PMs, and not only more PMs, but also an increase in constant correction by the mods.

2. Since we cannot see now who are the possible players that we should be cautious about, mods can expect a rise in their reports and the amount of jobs they might have, in refunding, logging, restoring the players island, log back, etc.

3. While there may be a rise in the reports, there will be a rise in mental stress because majority of the times, the logs fail. A HUGE hassle for mods(waste of time for them and maybe a little bit of disappointment) and definitely a huge hassle for the users.

4. If one is wrongly accused, then mods will ban that person without a question if there is wrong evidence is shown or only part of the story was explained to the mods. This makes the innocent players angry, and they cannot view the reports section as to who filed it, and what was the reason, and how one came to a conclusion. This would create an increase in the ban appeals, and mods may be looked down upon as they user wasn't given a chance to explain their story.

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You cannot take one's right away...that ONE RIGHT which is for the SAFETY of SkyBlock Community. At the least, make them viewable, but disable the ability to post.

 

I like reading reports ;-;

 

Well what if someone has an input to someone's ban appeal?

 

This has been said many of times, you'd message the mod(s) or who ever and they'd take it from there, or they'd make there own report etc.

I support this idea

 

The votes are quite close...;-;