Based on a recent thread by SwimHornet I find there to be a great confusion among mods on what can be defined as racist.

All I propose is that a clear set of rules regarding this is put into place

 

Racism is defined differently by different mods. If you are worried about being banned for it, just stay safe and don't say/joke about anything that could possibly just slightly offend someone.

 

^^

 

Racism is hard to define, but here's the golden rule: Racism is racism if the recipient feels it is. If the contents aren't directed at someone in particular then they should be viewed as if they were directed at an average person.

And more importantly, racism is racism IF A MOD SAYS SO. There's a place to discuss mod behaviours and it's either here or filing a formal report. It's not in game, and it's certainly not arguing with a Mod in game. If you feel that the behaviour of a mod was unfair in any way then either post feedback to them, or file a formal complaint or report.

To give you an example, if a policeman tells you to put your hands up and arrests you for no reason, you would still comply, because failure to do so can result in you getting shot or injured physically. Yes it may be unfair, yes it may be uncalled for, but the time for complaints is after, not during.

 

I don't mean this post to undermine any mods and please don't take offence to this, however, I have found that there are some mods who are between the ages 12-15 in which would not fully understand what is racism and what is not. I mean when I was 14 I used to think anything that was "black *something*" or "Asian *something*" was racism and so I do believe that there should be specific examples of what is and not racism

Again please don't take offence to this it and I know not all young mods misunderstand racism but it may be something to take into consideration

 

Here's something that has been pissing me off.
People don't like me saying "n****". But it's perfectly alright for a black man to call another black man "n****".
Even if I use the word in the same manner as black people do, it's still racist.

No.

Doublestandards.
If you want others to listen to your opinion, you better make damn sure that you're not doing what you don't want others to do.

I stopped saying it because people didn't like it, so I respected it.

But if you're one of those people that I just described, then you're an idiot and I don't respect your opinion.

 

100% agree, however, n**** is a name believed to be made by where people to devalue black people as second class people/slaves and therefore if a white person was to say that it would be racist as we do not have the right to mock a specific aspect of a race whereas they can make fun of themselves if they want.

Put it this way most people hate people making fun of their country, however, would make fun themselves like in Scotland we go on about how rubbish our whether, traditions and culture however if someone else was to mock us we'd be like "whoa there buddy don't go there" it's not us trying to be hypocrites, it's us having pride of who we are enough to joke about it with people who are the same as us but having enough pride not to be undermined

This is a long response and please don't hate me but that's my opinion on this matter

 

I think it's best illustrated in the scene from Rush Hour (for those 15 and older you may remember this movie):


As I said, it's what's accepted by the majority of people as correct that goes as acceptable.

 

Good movies.

I understand the POV from black people's perspectives, but it is an invalid reasoning that's being used.

 

Not to get too philosophical or anything but according to locke's government theory the power in society is with the majority therefore if 51% of people believe something to be racist then it is racist even if it's only 2% more.

So if the majority of the society mock the minority it looks like ganging up whereas if the minority of society mocks itself it's seen as joking around. It was actually very recently where the government is trying to not look racist, homophobic, sexist and I don't know in the USA but in the uk it's an arrest able offence to be racist in the uk

 

To put it simply, use common sense.
Think "If I was _______, would I find this racist?" or something along the lines.
If something seems like you should probably not do it, don't.
Ask someone or just don't do it at all.

 

Racism is something that means different things to different people. Overall, it's a mod decisions based on how people may feel.
Put yourself in others shoes.
Basically, the server chat is not a place for serious discussions about race, refraining from that will prevent accidental misunderstandings.
As always, racist jokes and blatant rudeness towards a certain person or group of people will result in a kick, mute, or temp ban.
For the "blurred lines" just play it safe.
A person is a person is a person, no need to specify race when talking.
It sounds like you're singling out that group.
And last of all.
The whole n***** thing.
The way I was raised, that's one of the worst things you can say.
There are obviously two ways to use it though.
Straight up, with an ER at the end is horribly offensive.
The more commonly used A at the end is almost slang for friends now.
And I'll still take action at it.
I don't care if you private message your FRIENDS calling them that.
Just don't turn it rude.
And as far as double standards go, my standards are always the same.
A or ER, I'll kick.
ER is just more serious in my opinion.

 

I agree, racism is racism and it's still wrong. The only issue that we have is that it can be interpreted seriously even if it was in a friendly manner IMHO. We do need some base rules for racism though. I don't think people should learn by accidentally getting a ban whether it be temp or perm but should learn the rules for racism on the server by reading them.

 

To be honest, the only time I've seen racism in this community was on .NET once. But yeah it would be good to have some rules on this topic.