More on Etiquette and Mini-modding in the rules.

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  1. HkTV
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    Hello there.

    In the rules( The Rules in the Most In-Depth Form | Skyblock Forums ) there is brief of mention of server etiquette. This is spam, caplocks, disrespect and appropriate skins etc.

    A rule that should be added in a sense is Mini-modding. If you have no idea what mini-modding is, I'll explain now.

    Mini-modding

    Mini-modding is acting in the sense of power, or having the capability of a ban. Publicly telling someone off or making a big scene out of someone breaking a rule without any power to it is mini-modding. Announcing you have reported someone publicly or even in private(they do not "need" to know this) will not help and is yet again Mini-modding. Further more, asking anyone if they need help is not in itself mini-modding, but doing this constantly to seem like more of a helpful person kind of is.

    Now I know these statements are little blunt so I'll explain them all here in WHY Mini-modding is bad and extremely annoying to (most)people.

    Mini-modding will cause a flame war, or will increase the chance of one. Publicly telling someone off will cause an argument and disrupt the server chat with more spam of "Don't do that" or "that's bad, I'll report you now". How to tell them off privately? Well /msg (name) works JUST fine, it'll set them straight well enough and it'll all be in whispers. If that person doesn't change, then report them, not openly say you're going to, because that's just spammy and unnecessary. In the words of Nike: Just do it. Lastly, asking people if they need help may be annoying to other members who DO NOT need help, if someone needs help they will usually be asking in chat, you may however ask "Who needs Cobble/Wood/Stone?" etc. and offer that free, or sell it like that. That is fine.

    I understand how some of this mini-modding stuff may go straight over your head, but the main rule is, do not publicly act like a moderator when you are not one, especially when there are others online. They have been given this job to do it and do it they must, it is not your job but their's.

    Side note: Telling someone off when there's a moderator there is not the best thing, when there's a mod, tell the mod if they haven't already noticed. If AFK then you tell them off privately.

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    Another definition:
    Acting as if in a position of power to ban, pointing out that a member has broken a rule, requesting a Moderator action publicly or any similar practices is called Minimodding, or Minimod for short. This causes more fights to break out as people don't have the ability, but act as though they have real authority.

    And now google definition:
    Those players without admin or mod powers or responsibilities who chastise other players and list server rule infractions incessantly. They should be ignored.

    and now urban dictionary def:
    A normal forum poster that takes it upon themselves to push forum rules and tell everybody how to conduct themselves instead of leaving it up to the mods. Typically reserved for people that don't know what they're talking about, act like they have some kind of authority, and/or are obviously doing what they're doing to try to score points with the real mods and become moderators themselves. (especially if it becomes a regular thing for them and/or they don't contribute much good to the community otherwise)
    A typical minimod would go into a thread where several members are in an intense, hostile argument that hasn't degenerated to the point where nobody's having an intellectual discussion anymore and tell everybody to stop flaming and trolling each other, and possibly that they'll be banned if they continue.


    English

    Another addition to etiquette is only english in global chat. Speaking in another language makes moderating that bit harder for the mods and that's something that isn't wanted nor welcomed. Chatting in local is acceptable or whispers, but as a whole, please speak in English when using global. You could be swearing, plotting to kill us all in our sleep or other bad stuff.

    Blacklisting

    This comes under disrespect, but I think it deserves its own rule. Blacklisting is listing the name of someone who did you wrong publicly etc. trying to make them seem like a bad person. Complaining about someone on a forum post, or on the server publicly is blacklisting and is rude. It shows nothing but immaturity and is making a mountain out of a molehill. Consult the mods privately when they have wronged you or you have broken a rule.

    No adf.ly

    Just... no adfly, adfocus, linkbucks the whole lot. No... just no.

    These are just suggestions for rules that should be indeed added.

    Mini suggestion - Rule tab on the top so finding and reading the rules is easier.
     
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    LOL

    but yeh, I never knew there were proper terms for these things >,<
    y por que no puedo hablar en espanol? Es divertido ;-;
     
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    Mini modding was what I DID before real modding.
    But I was nice. c:
     
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    Thank you...thank you for this thread :p
     
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    I thought mini-modding was like an offensive thing making fun of players... no?
    I think the aim is to show that they can act like mods to be mods. I think it is better not to "mini-mod" but offer help and answer questions which is positive. I can see how those links could be dangerous and i tell them not to link. If they cant speak english, im not sure that can be helped. I guess we just have to deal with the fact some people cant speak english. Trying not to discriminate. And yes blacklisting should not be acceptable, generally creates spam. Yes a rules tab for the rules would be great
     
  6. HkTV
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    Mini-modding is a broad definition of "suck up". It's a sub category.

    If you tell someone who breaks a rule that they shouldn't usual replies would be "why" or "you can't tell me what to do" or "you're not a mod". Mini-modding PUBLICLY, is just an annoyance and completely unnecessary

    You are welcome

    Some parts of mini-modding are acceptable. Telling someone caps are bad is simple and doesn't cause too much hassle, but then in long if everyone does that it's a wall of CAPS ARE BAD NUB

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    I actually never got asked why when I did the same thing, and a rarely ever see it anymore (probably because I kick them and they never see the person telling them :t )
    I actually find that people will have to start doing this if no mods are online, and there is a need I guess. In a small way I find it harmless, and then theres annoying and spammy if people cant handle being told what to do and chuck a tantrum.
     
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    Nice thread, interesting ideas
     
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    Reason to add as a rule is because it sparks flame wars.
     
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    I've never seen a flame war that wasnt able to be sorted out...
    ok imo I would make a rule saying not to name specific people when "mini-modding", just stating a rule to inform and hope they understand is better. I dont know I would feel really bad to people who just want to help, and the people receiving msg spam of the rule seems intense :p
    Its really hard to make a rule like that stick when we have to "punish" for someone trying to help
     
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    Helping and mini-modding are 2 separate things. Telling someone privately that they broke a rule and they should be careful next time is helpful, it's quiet, to the side and won't cause fuss. Making a big deal in chat like "MOD HE BROKE A RULE! BAN HIM HE'S BAD! Gosh he's a nuuub!" Is mini-modding at an extreme.
     
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    It says: and that I can not speak Spanish? It's fun, -;
     
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    I was... making a google translate joke *cries in the corner*
     
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    LOL this amazing XD I support this..
     
  15. Gemmalove
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    I think they are good suggestions, but the mini-modding thing is a bit confusing and could be made more clear.
     
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    this good?

    Another definition:
    Acting as if in a position of power to ban, pointing out that a member has broken a rule, requesting a Moderator action publicly or any similar practices is called Minimodding, or Minimod for short. This causes more fights to break out as people don't have the ability, but act as though they have real authority.

    And now google definition:
    Those players without admin or mod powers or responsibilities who chastise other players and list server rule infractions incessantly. They should be ignored.

    and now urban dictionary def:
    A normal forum poster that takes it upon themselves to push forum rules and tell everybody how to conduct themselves instead of leaving it up to the mods. Typically reserved for people that don't know what they're talking about, act like they have some kind of authority, and/or are obviously doing what they're doing to try to score points with the real mods and become moderators themselves. (especially if it becomes a regular thing for them and/or they don't contribute much good to the community otherwise)
    A typical minimod would go into a thread where several members are in an intense, hostile argument that hasn't degenerated to the point where nobody's having an intellectual discussion anymore and tell everybody to stop flaming and trolling each other, and possibly that they'll be banned if they continue.
     
  17. Gemmalove
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    I like that one better. It makes it more clear that trying to help isn't mini-modding or a bad thing.
     
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    You realize there are a good amount of players that speak little to no English yet still speak in global chat. Your suggestion of not allowing them to speak their language of choice is quite ridiculous...
     
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    Nah, they can still speak in their language if they can't speak english... I'm assuming he meant like when people speak in spanish saying "alguine habla espanol" (Does anyone speak spanish?) because that's kinda poitnless
     
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    i was just wondering if pointing out rules to ppl is mini modding like, if someone where to say Buying dirt could i point out to him that dirt is illegal to sell. or explaining rules to ppl.
     

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