The final EULA thread ^^

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  1. AnthonyHK123
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    Moreover, Mojang can NOT stop us from not accepting the EULA, they can't shut the server down, they could change the IP of the server, which is illegal Ddos, or they can shutdown ALL minecraft servers at once, but think about it, would mojang do it?
     
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    As I say, EULA won't affect the server. Nothing will be changed, no worries.
     
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    It's like a riot: YEAH, I AGREE WITH ANTHONY, LETS KILL MOJANG :t
     
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    Not challenging you, may I know which mod said it?
     
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    And please, can a moderator explain HERE that the buycraft shops will shut down, thanks.
     
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    I'm not being emotional or what, I just want to know the truth :)
    Akrill
     
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    Not sure why you tagged me.
     
  9. Archeopstoms
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    I know you know a lot about this, I wanted your input :p
     
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    The only thing I know is that people freaking out over the "New EULA," are just getting worried about nothing. The "New EULA" doesn't exist as a legally binding document has not be released. It was merely a blog post. However, the EULA that exists now does have the terms that should Mojang take action, then yes, the server's would be legally required to comply from that point onwards. As for the perks that people might already own, that I can't comment on as I have no power over that.
     
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    wat
     
  12. captain_dostuff
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    Only time will tell if people are willing to keep wonderful servers like Skyblock alive out of nothing but the kindness of their hearts, but I *highly* doubt the servers will simply disappear tomorrow, or any time soon. If anything, I suspect Buycraft will just disappear for a while, only to return with more "EULA-appropriate" offerings.

    That said, people seem to be largely concerned that everyone will suddenly have /fly, /god, etc., or that no-one will have such commands at all. Let's put that to rest real quick...
    So... trust in the sheep. It will be okay. :)

    Hell, maybe nothing will happen at all. Mojang's not some evil arch-enemy trying to take our Minecraft away -- they just don't approve of pay-to-win business models. I bet most servers could continue running exactly as they are without ever receiving so much as a letter from Mojang. The most likely servers to get into trouble or disappear are those populated almost exclusively by young children whose parents would never have coughed up a dime, except "ALL MY FRIENDS HAVE BETTER KITS THAN MEEEEE."

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    Now for a more technical skewering of some rampant misconceptions, starting with - as UngodAlmight pointed out - the fact that there is no new EULA.
    (TL;DR points in bold)

    Most of this "new EULA" fuss revolves around one particular blog post -- an official statement explaining that Mojang intends to begin enforcing the existing EULA (updated Dec 11, 2013) more strictly, which is evidently what everyone's freaking out over. I don't personally know how long they've had a clause in the EULA forbidding commercial use of their software, but it's not something they just added last month, and it's not at all unusual when it comes to multiplayer games.

    The EULA (End User License Agreement) terms issued by Mojang haven't been new since at least last December, but Mojang became fed up with pay-to-win servers early this June, and sent out a warning.

    In rather iffy language, Mojang's EULA says you may NOT: "make commercial use of, try to make money from, or let other people get access to our game and its parts in a way that is unfair or unreasonable." The blog post describes several practices that they consider to be "commercial," "unfair," or "unreasonable." I would hate to be the judge who is tasked to interpret these terms if (when?) a server decides to lawyer up against Mojang.

    Mojang can raise legal action against people presumed to be using Mojang's software in a commercial fashion. Whther or not a court would enforce their terms is kinda questionable.

    As referred to in the EULA, "parts" of the game include: the client-server bundle that make up single player, the vanilla server software created by Mojang, the Realms service, and the LGPL-licensed server software Bukkit or any derivatives. Bukkit is open-source Minecraft server software owned by Mojang, and most (non-Realms) servers use Bukkit or software based on Bukkit, like Spigot. Bukkit plugins (and possibly client mods) also fall under this umbrella, since they rely on Mojang's software to function. As of Jul 8 when Bukkit for 1.7.10 came out, server operators are required to affirm their acceptance of the EULA in order to update.

    Not just single-player gamers and Realms renters, but all server operators running vanilla Minecraft or Bukkit/Spigot/etc. servers are bound to the EULA. Since server plugins build upon Mojang's code, their use is also subject to the EULA when run using Mojang's software.
     
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    So How Long do you think noobcrew's servers will be on :p
     
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    How about we wait a few hours.
     
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    Naw I Think Its gonna survive for some months :p
     
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    I don't get why people are getting so worked up about this...
     
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    I tried to write a program to alert me when Skyblock comes to a screeching halt, but Java doesn't take kindly to impossibilities. :t

    Ever seen a whole flock of birds take off in a panic because one bird off to the side felt threatened? The chaos and confusion was inevitable, even if the new enforcement generally shouldn't concern Skyblockers. At least people in these parts ask rational questions -- some server populations didn't stay so calm about it.
     
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    It's August 1st and the world hasn't ended yet. What do you know?
     
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    Lol, mineverse wouldnt survive an hour without money, we are too dang big :p.

    If eula really were to be enforced, most servers would die in the first week, big ones like hypixel, the hive, and mineplex would shut down in 1 day :p
     
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    To* enforced*
     
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