Mobs, Arena and Hoppers

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What do you think?

  1. I agree (both)

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  2. I support only first one

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  3. I support only second one

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  1. footfish94
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    1) You added Mob Arena and I think It was a good idea! It's really funny and very challenging!
    If you play, you can obtain as a reward some Iron and gold; for this reason I though: "Why Zombies and Zombiepigmen are still disabled, if you can easily obtain their rare drops anyway?"
    I played Mob arena just an hour and I obtained 31 iron ingots and some gold (about 10). I think that enable zombies again couldn't be a bad thing (According to me, zombies iron drop is not so common... times are the same of mob arena, about 32xhour).
    Pigmen maybe drop too much but gold trade isn't so rilevant in the server and enabling them won't "destroy" the server, I suppose.
    You can just enable theese 2 mob and change Mob Arena reward: for example you can win gravel (unobtainable and unsellable), Sandstone and co. (Same as gravel), Rails, redstone components as comparator, cobwebs, rarely spawn eggs, slime ball etc..

    2) Hoppers are a great thing but I could undestand why you disabled them. They said that with newest update of lockette won't be this problem again. If you can't update you simply allows players use Hopper in his own island perimeter and not out! Players have a different /home place, I think it's possible to set a sort of area around /home point where you can use hopper; when you go out of this area, you simply can't! I'm really bad with plug-in but don't seem to be hard meccanism!
     
  2. StrayanPenguin
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    no support, Mob arena can be controled.

    Many people have access to ALOT of spawners, and can (And will) make MASSIVE farms topping that rate.
     
  3. Elric
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    No support, gravel is un-obtainable for a reason. For zombies and zombie pigmen, no, you could make HUGE farms where you could AFK and get iron which really isn't fair to the less fortunate, crashing the economy. Not to mention the mass amount of spawners that are out there, let's say you make a nice little 20 spawner farm of zombies with auto suffocate every once in a while. Let's say that produces over 20 iron per hour (Plausable, made that much using Purp's or was it Pulp? and nw_zw's 20 spawner farm). You AFK for 1 day, not including server restarts, you'll get a mass 480 iron per day, which is just insane.

    And no, hoppers will NOT be re-enabled.
     
  4. footfish94
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    You stuck in the idea that "enabled is un-controllable" and I don't think so! Who disabled a lot of things hasn't done wisely , He create an un-controllable situation!
    Soon iron lose its worth (gold too I think) and right now Iron cost is lower than past: rich people start to have a good amount of iron, why they have to buy it?
    Zombie Spawners or not, the result is the same... only sooner or later!

    According to me Grass is a good "money" : not so usefull, you can't farm it but EARN it (by voting or trading)! Also diamond is a good tradeable thing for the same reasons!

    Iron and gold are involved into many and many crafting: anvils, hooks, rails, minecarts, hoppers, iron doors, bars, shears, pistons, buckets, cauldrons... I don't know why we should give up a lot of things because of this situation! :-/
    Things with greater value must be, in my opinion, the most useless... not the most USEFULL

    I swear, I don't understand because gravel is un-obtainable... please, tell me!

    For hoppers is the same thing: why I have to give up hoppers even if they're controlled (wisely) and can't do damage?
     
  5. Elric
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    *Gravel gets let out to the world*

    Next day... *Whole spawn is on fire due to mass amounts of flint and steal* Only old and trusted players have it for a reason.

    For hoppers: *Flies to island and places hopper under locked chest and takes contents, then flies back to own island* Yeah...
     
  6. footfish94
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    Remove fire effects in the pubblic warps is too hard?

    Do you read what I wrote about hoppers? I wonna avoid what you said... I'm looking for a solution, you give up any solutions!

    Robby, you don't know how spawners work: they work if you are at least 16 blocks from them, couldn't be more than 8 mobs in a 9x9x6 area and most important : Mobs DON'T DROP rare drops (such us iron) unless you kill them personally!
     
  7. Elric
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    It doesn't matter, gold nuggets are not a rare drop of zombie pigmen, meaning you could still AFK farm those. I really don't want to start any arguments but they were removed in 2013 for a reason and they're most likely not coming back. Also, I do not believe the rare drops part is true, I've seen people receive gold ingots from zombie pig AFK farms.
     
  8. megadorkvikki
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    I like that zombie/zombie pigmen are disabled. The mob arena is great. It brings players together who may not have interacted. I like that Skyblock is community-based. Just slaying mobs from a spawner is boring. It's more fun to work together. That's the best reward.
     
  9. footfish94
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    Robby:
    For pigmen I said: "Pigmen maybe drop too much but gold trade isn't so rilevant in the server and enabling them won't "destroy" the server, I suppose."
    Everybody says "...for a reason" but noone explain me why! :-/

    Mega:
    I love mob arena too,I don't wanna change it! I'd only prefere that instead useless ingots, mob arena give me some nice building blocks for make my island very beautyful. Don't you?
    No round changes, players stay together: after this you receive some rails for build a cool rollercoaster in your island or some sandstone you can use for decorate your home! This is the Skyblock I want!
    This skyblock isn't challenging, It's useless if you don't reach anything!
    I'd like /tpa command was available for everybody (You should pay to use it). This brings players together I think!
    Do you disagree?
     
  10. Archeopstoms
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    Gold is used for gold blocks, which can be used for beacons :p

    And then if we got sandstone from the arena, that would enforce island farming, which we don't want, so it's not gonna happen
     
  11. Elric
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    Gold is a main part of the economy as it is used as one of the secondary currencies of skyblock, so yes, too much gold WOULD kill the economy.
     
  12. Hoecobo
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    This has been suggested countless times. Zombies and pigmen are not getting added, and until lockette is updated or geek develops a new plugin hoppers aren't coming back.
     
  13. FirstCelestrian
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    You do realize it takes 9 gold nuggets for a gold ingot, right?
     
  14. megadorkvikki
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    I believe the tpa command shouldn't be for everyone. If it were, more islands would be griefed. I like that it is a donor-only benefit. It gives people a goal, something to aspire towards. Some servers have missions. For many people on Skyblock, the mission is to become a donor and to take advantage of the donor-only benefits. I really love this server as it is.
     
  15. footfish94
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    Archeopstoms:
    1) gold isn't the only way to upgrade a beacon
    2) Beacon has a great value (and it is a right thing), if you can afford beacon I think you can also afford gold/iron blocks you need!

    Island farming? I don't say " Sandstone legal", I just wanna make obtainable blocks that Mod "banned" from the economy . Good think make sandstone illegal to avoid island farming but if you can obtain it without "cheating", I don't see the problem! You can solve the "sand" farming and bridging in this way!

    Robbybigc:
    Gold worth is very low + gold is very rare = few people have something pretty worthless! I don't think It could kill the economy.
    In chat noone sell or buy gold because is pretty useless and buy it isn't convenient!

    joecobo:
    In this way you AVOID the problem, you don't try to SOLVE it! You stuck in the idea that to solve a problem is sufficient disable the source of the problem, without taking into account the consequences!

    FirstCelestrian:
    I know... I repeat: "Pigmen maybe drop too much but gold trade isn't so rilevant in the server and enabling them won't "destroy" the server, I suppose.". Gold block is a good building block, could be a good alternative to the cobblestone, of which most of the islands are made! Gold hasn't a great worth right now!

    megadorkvikki:
    You are contradictory: you said "The mob arena is great. It brings players together who may not have interacted." and now you say "I believe the tpa command shouldn't be for everyone".
    Following your reasoning if I don't pay I'm a stupid user and my only aim is griefing, but if I pay I magically become a person full of wisdom?
    Your goal is very sad, It's like surrender for me. "My goal is pay for some litlle advantages"! Not my style ! My goal is try to become rich from nothing, my aim is a big and beautiful island, built from zero! Anyway in this server I start to think that it's impossible win my challenge... the key word is "illegal" and people think that if you don't get donor package, you are a zero!
     
  16. megadorkvikki
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    I never said or implied that if someone is a non-donor that they are a "stupid user" and that their "only aim is griefing". I also never said or implied that a donor is a "person full of wisdom".

    When referencing my previous post, you used quotation marks to imply that I said: "My goal is to pay for some litlle advantages". I never made this statement, nor do I agree with it.

    I feel like you are attacking some players who replied with their opinion by placing words in their mouth. That's not cool.
     
  17. MysticalDemon
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    well, this Is kinda stupid. just saying that to win RARE stuff in /ma j... no... and gravel? no.
    And not even hoppers i saw a video of a kid taking RARE stuff from hoppers.
     
  18. FirstCelestrian
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    Well if you think about it there's nothing wrong with adding another way of obtaining things such as iron and gold. I mean, it isn't like you can't already get it. It is extremely rare for zombies to drop iron, and zombie pigmen only drop gold nuggets. It takes 9 gold nuggets for an ingot, and 81 gold nuggets for a gold block. Think about it! It's not like people are going to get totally rich off of farming this stuff. I mean, I've seen zombies drop a single carrot or potato more often than I've seen one drop an iron ingot! I go afk at my mob spawner on another server, and about every hundred zombies I kill, I get an iron ingot. I've been doing this for months and I've probably only gotten... what? Five ingots? Even if you get iron and gold from killing them, there are already ways to obtain those kinds of things, so there's nothing wrong with adding another.
     
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    On a scale of 1-10 HOW SWEG DO I LOOK?
     

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