The scenario I'm about to describe has not happened to me. I am merely wondering if it's legal or not, to protect myself and other players.

Let's say....I wanted to trade 1 stack of wool for 1 grass block.

What if the person buying the wool gives me actual grass instead? Like the stuff you get from bonemealing on the ground kind of grass.

It's rare that someone specifies "grass block" when negotiating a trade.

My question is:
If someone says to me "I'll trade 1 grass for 1 stack of your wool".
Can they legally give me a piece of bonemealed grass?

Or is this considered scamming?

 

I feel like Technically, it's not scamming but at the same time not fair.

 

I would say that it is definitely a misunderstanding that can be quickly solved. But I wouldn't go as far as to say that this is a scam. If a player knows anything about trading on sky block, they know about grass. If the player had done this on purpose, then they're just a butt.

 

If a player came to you and said "They promised me 25 grass and I got grass, not the block. Help!"....would you ban the person trading the grass? I think there should be a rule about this....a guideline to follow. That way it is deemed either legal (watch your wording) or illegal.

 

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Look at what happened to me :/

 

This happened to me about a year ago... but back then 1 Iron was the same as 10 grass blocks.

 

I have had this done to me, but the person who did it could not be banned because it was technically a grass like I had mentioned. So, I just started being specific with my Auctions, Sellings, etc so that it wouldn't happen to me again. I hope you understand that we're sorry we really can't do much, but it isn't really scamming. It just matters how specific you are and whom you're trading with.

 

This makes me so sad to read. I think if this becomes a more common problem, then a rule might be enacted. It may make some players frustrated and quit when they realize they're getting bonemeal grass, not grass blocks.

My heart goes out to you. I'm sorry you experienced this.

 

I didn't really want the enchant table anymore, so I'm not that sad. I just want the guy to get banned.

 

Shouldn't it be illegal?

 

You can use my enchantment table anytime I'm in-game.

 

"Grass block"

 

Pretty sure most people would know that you would want a grass block instead of grass, but I see how it could be an issue

 

Technically both items are called Grass, but anyone who's played a while should know the plant version as Tallgrass, not Grass. It certainly wouldn't be ban worthy if this occurred, but a trade-back would be required of the person who did the trade intentionally (this would be fairly difficult to prove).

Note: /give player grass 1 would give a player 1 grass block, not the plant.

 

If it requires a trade back shouldn't it be ban worthy?

 

Most scams shouldn't earn kids perm bans. They should be banned until they agree to return the scammed items, then let back. This is what I meant by not ban worthy. They shouldn't stay banned unless it's a repeat offense.

 

Technically, "Grass" and "Grass Blocks" are different items, yes. But in 99% of my trading, I've seen "grass" to mean "grass blocks". A less severe example, but still important is the trade of wood. Does wood mean "wood planks" or "wood logs"? Who should have the responsibility to clarify.

A few things need to be considered here when asking "was the trade legit", which will either swing the answer to "yes" or "no"

1) Was there precedent: Eg. if they traded yesterday for grass blocks, and today they gave you grass for another trade, you could make a stronger case that they were scamming you because they "knew" that grass was mean't to be grass blocks from the previous trade. But if this was the first time that you guys traded, then your scamming case would be alot weaker.
2) What was the value of the items traded. If you're trading 32 "grass" for a diamond, then you could make a stronger case for spamming than if you were trading 1 "grass" for a stack of wool.

Ultimately though, I would say that the case leans heavily against the person paying the "grass", for a number of reasons:

1) Anyone who's played Skyblock for any amount of time, knows that "grass blocks" is the universal currency of the server, you recieve it when you vote, and you buy/sell stuff from the server's shop with it. The first thing many people ask is "where do I get grass" to which people reply "vote" - that in itself should be a precedent as it shows that "grass" by the server's definition refers to "grass blocks".
2) "Grass" (aka the bonemealed version) actually requires very specific proceedures obtain. You can't simply bonemeal an area of grass blocks to obtain this. You need to apply bonmeal, then apply a very specific tool (shears) to obtain the grass. Silktouch won't do it. The excuse that "I just had some lying around from farming" won't cut it either, since it needs to be specificially obtained. Therefore, anyone in posession of "grass" either got it from a dropparty/donation (which is relatively rare), or specificially procured it for a reason.

As always though, you should be specific, especially when trading with orange or non donors. If you've never traded with them, specify exactly that you meant grass blocks. If possible, put up some signs around the trading area detailing the prices, so they can't claim that they didn't know.