.NET AND THE MODS

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Do you think there are too many inactive mods

  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. MOB_SLAYER_101.
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    WOW 1,140 people looked at this
     
  2. blaq
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    They have not. 99% of the suggestions on the suggestions page are ignored. Granted 80% are cr*p, but most are legit, and if nothing, at least a simple explaination as to why something cannot be implemented would be better than leaving those threads open (at the moment there's over 1000 open threads).

    It took them all of 6? months to reimplement something as simple as coloring the 100 donor names. I've seen so many MMOs and games just die because of lack of player-admin/developer communication.

    The main issue seems to be that the admins seem to suffer from a "once bitten, 100000x shy" policy. Due to the age of Skyblock, many of the requested plugins have been trialed at some stage, found to be buggy, and never reimplemented, despite most of the issues being fixed in later versions of the plugins. Likewise, mods are hobbled permissions wise because of a few mods who have abused the power in the past.

    Rather than opening new servers, the owners should consider focusing their energies on fixing their current servers, and administering them.
     
  3. MOB_SLAYER_101.
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    blaq you have skill brother and THANK U for not just yelling at me for how "stupid" the stuff im saying is
     
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    You could probably have stated your point more finely, but I felt there was nothing to be added by yelling, it does have validity, just needs to be polished a little more in the presentation.
     
  5. Ronnie Pickering
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    Lol this thread was locked due to the insane amount of arguments going on in it, which is a valid reason to lock it.

    Admins and mods are two different ranks, the admins don't get on, but cyp's on more often than you think.
    Whether or not he does anything is solely up to him and crew, which is why mods are promoted.
    The server's this big, yet people complain it'll never get any different, I don't see why that's bad.

    The problem with changing things is, if it's a bad change, people leave, good change, people stay
    So why change something good into bad if it's just not worth it?



    My point, you can't expect them to please everyone, cyp's lazy, end of story. That's just him. He can't help that much if Crew is even lazier. No suggestions are worth it to cyp if crew doesn't even want to do it, meaning cyp isn't your problem.

    Now for you to reply getting angry at me because you disagree with my post and think I'm yelling at you.
    #inb4close
     
  6. Monster_Hunter
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    Time zones are the problems I'm assuming or something like their life outside the skyblock community
     
  7. TimePlaysGames
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    Hell no you didnt word anything correctly. Nor is killa saying he 100% agrees with you. Killa is mainly talking about the admins and the community.
     
  8. noobkilla101
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    I completely agree with you. I used to see more new servers being created than the older ones being fixed. The mod team used to make really great suggestions for the new and old servers but most of them were never taken into consideration/ implemented. I understand plugins can bug out and just not work on the server - my point was not enough was done to find plugins that actually do work. I believe the base code of the skyblock plugin itself is in disarray and needs to be fixed/ updated so all the excellent, stable, efficient plugins can be used on this server. In other words, at this point the best thing that can happen is wipe out the server map and rebuild the server from the bottom up. That will never happen though because of the owner's ideologies and previous experiences with toxic mods. I'm almost at my breaking point where I will simply never show my face around here ever again. All the good mods are leaving or have left already to better servers while the owner feels the server is doing just fine. I predicted the server's downfall a long time ago and as time passes, this prediction is coming to reality - even though I don't want that to happen.
     
  9. MOB_SLAYER_101.
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    My message is the same if you ask bacon (a irl friend) i have been talking to him about it wayyyy before killa commented
     
  10. MOB_SLAYER_101.
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    U wise blaq
     
  11. Archeopstoms
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    ;-;

    It goes on
     
  12. MOB_SLAYER_101.
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    Who cares if you told bacon? Christ, if you never posted it in the thread don't claim that killa supports everything you said even tho you didn't say it.
     
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    First of all; real mature of you of rating his initial post dumb. (Looking at you Bdarkslayer Livvy Shiningnova06 Iamandrewj Evan Lego) Also you, Archeopstoms, for the unnecessary rude rating.
    Secondly; I agree with what he's saying. Sure, there are times people are busy. I know this very well as I lurked around all day in vanish and at times people just couldn't be on, and the fact that I wasn't showing myself in public is unrelated.**
    But there are more than plenty of Moderators and a lot of these come on and leave after only a few minutes, some even leave when their presence are revealed. And this is coming from someone who was the most active moderator with probably most active moderating time in this server's history. I easily spent 12 hours a day most days of the week. As Cyp can confirm, when everytime he logged on he saw me in /vanish, but with me responding.
    Don't think I don't know what I'm talking about when reading all this. Sure, you might not understand it, but it's just my viewpoint, I guess.

    A reason to this decrease in activity from the staff's part is the introduction of "TMod". It felt as if you could pick and choose randomly. I compare today's recruit rate with the rate at when I first got promoted. It was not as occuring as it is today, basically because it took time. The team I had... The family* I had the fortune of working with when I got accepted was MUCH more different than the one you have today. It's not a family. I don't even know what it is.
    I used to consider the staff team my second family. They were the best people I knew of and was lucky enough to continue to talk with (and some which just... disappeared). There was a lot of hostility when I left the team. I could feel it and I could see it. There was no such thing before. We talked about it. Hell, we even had our own server to socialize and to do activities with eachother.
    I believe that today's situation is an direct concequence of the TMod rank, leaving the new and the old (and the ones inbetween) isolated from eachother.

    Don't get me wrong. I do not think you new guys are bad people, absolutely not. I feel as if you have just been left on your own. And before any: "Uh but you're not a mod, how do you know this stuff" or "shut up you're not staff", no. No I am not. I don't know whether or not you have made any progress, of any value, since I left. I don't know whether or not what I'm saying is relevant. But I do know that these sort of issues aren't fixed over night, especially when there's bad air amoungst the team.

    Some of you might be happy, some of you might be annoyed, with my lack of sugarcoating, but this is actually the truth.

    I don't hate anyone of you. I don't think any of you are idiots. I just believe that you just don't quite know how to handle this.

    Again, some of you might be happy or upset with what I'm going to say, but; I'm am going to reapply and request for my rank back. Not because of the status. Not because I want to feel good. But because I think that there is some serious work amoung the team that may or may not need some help.
    If everything is fine and dandy, so be it. I am not needed. But I would hate to see the once beautiful team we had, to be lost because of something preventable.


    Please forgive my nostalgia and perhaps my rudeness. I just had to speak my mind.

    -Akrill


    ** I was in vanish majority of my time because it saved me time and let me focus on the people who needed my help. I saw people yelling "MOD HELP ME PLEASE" and teleported to make a quick evaluation. If no help was needed, I'd move on to the next one, or if my help was needed I would ask the person.
    This way I didn't have to use time for chitchatting when people were in need of help. And yes, more than once have I seen Moderators ignoring their duties just to talk with a friend.
     
  15. huncha
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    HIS STUDIES!!! WHAT IS HE STUDYING? ROCKET SCIENCE!?!?!? LUKE HAS NOT BEEN OF FOR YEARS!!!
     
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    Arkill do not judge our ratings, as you may think we are immature we are not. YOU MAY NOT CALL OUT ON OUR RATINGS. Who's opinion is it yours or ours. Think again before saying something that is directly related to one or more people.
     
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    It's an opinion, and really if he didn't make a valid point then it can be seen as dumb but very rare is there a dumb opinion.
    Anyway
    All I will say is weekdays: I spend most my time moderating alone and that is fine but often is a challenge. I see mods pop in for 20min then go without warning. There are a lot of inactive mods, especially older smods. We have majority of mods who are school aged and need to focus on study, or adult mods who have jobs or further study. It's life. I do as much as I physically can to help, an usually I don't leave until another mod is online. But I had to take a break. I go online during my break, and what do you know? I was the only mod for a good 20min.
    I'm not complaining, but I sure the hell am scared. When I'm asleep I know the server is safe. When I'm awake I worry.
    That's what I walked into, it's the only way I know. I will continue to work hard on making the server a better place
     
  18. puddinguy62
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    The server does not have enough staff. More mods are quitting than are being hired. But here's what I see: most of the mods that are quitting are older mods. These are the people that have been moderating for a long time and can no longer handle the stress. Newer mods are excited and ready for anything, usually for at least a few months. So, the solution is to hire a lot more new mods. But, of course, there is a problem with this. Speeding up the hiring process means that Cyp and Crew could make mistakes. They have in the past, and bad things have happened. Bad things. They don't want that to happen again. Believe me. So, the entire point of this post is that, most likely, nothing will change.
     
  19. MOB_SLAYER_101.
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    I didn't say he agreed with everything i said
     
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    Thank you Akrill and krissy for looking out for me and i thought it would be the ex and non-ex mods who would disagree the most :) thx guys and girl :)
     
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