Finishing the Trades at /warp donor

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  1. Glitcher7262
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    I don't know why but /warp donor has been around for a month or few, & Cyp still hasn't done the coming soon, Would it be possible for Cyp to get on & finish these Villagers trades?
     
  2. Neonblaze2
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    Cyp is a very busy person who needs time to settle matters like this, He is very busy dealing with just about anything and everything imaginable that could happen on these servers and will get around to it. Good things come to people who wait :)
     
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    Well, true, but sometimes, like when he dropped a cyp head, he could've done it.
     
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    It's not as easy as just adding items. There's the question of what to add. Remember it's a donor only accessible area, so there'll be a huge trade in donors charging a premium for simply purchasing the item and onselling it. Then there's the bigger question of what he should add. Should he add fireblocks? How would you feel if you bought one for 300 diamonds, and they're now on sale for 64 cobble? What should he add to not completely screw over the economy? It's not as simple as just zipping on, and adding the items to the villagers. Lots of thought needs to go into adding items into such a complex economy like Skyblock.NET
     
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    True, but what he could do is re-add horse eggs. they used to be at /warp trade, and I think 15 diamonds is rediculous. Another good idea would be to add nether stars. Both I think should be about 2 stacks of grass, but it would be nice to be able to buy them. I don't think blocks like fire, lava, or water should be buyable though. I do think nether quartz would be a nice addition more so than nether stars, and why did you rate this dumb Narcissa?
     
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    But he could actually just ad eny block because skyblock.net has no economy it's not an economy server the economy is what we make it .org is an economy server there he couldn't just ad enything but here on .net he can
     

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    Finally. Give this guy a medal!
    Skyblock.net is survival, there isnt an economy in place except the one we made as players.

    But when we look at it, the reason items like source blocks and horse eggs are not put in villagers is they are either: a) not needed for survival, b) meant to be rare, c) meant to be difficult to obtain d) all the above.
    I cant put words in the admins mouths, but for goodness sake we need to stop talking about the economy net. If you want to talk about economy, look at the way org is.
    Lets just say in net we have a complex system for trading which incorporates personal opinion about the rarity of items, and the players with the most influences can dictate trade prices. Its not really a formal economy. Its something player have done to try and make it easier to get items.
     
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    If anything is to be added back, in my opinion quartz and horse eggs should be.
    15 diamonds just for a horse that can be killed with one hit is ridiculous.
    Quartz, is a massively used building material and considering people have full chests of it and they are apparently worth 1 diamond is also just ridiculous
     
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    It would be nice if ALL the villagers where changed and there where new trades put in such as Source blocks and portal frames and stuff like that that is considered "rare". Getting more of these items into the skyblock economy will make the rich poorer and the poor richer which I think is a good thing.
     
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    I totally agree.
    I think it's about time that the people who don't posses anything of considerable value get a shot at saving up for a rare WITHOUT the risk of the seller overpricing/scamming etc. A set trade at warp donor would stabilise the rares industry and make trading more enjoyable for all.
     
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    The problem with that is that if people have upgraded others for in game items, they're just going to chargeback.
     
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    I don't think that things like portal frames and water blocks should be in /warp donor to buy. They aren't really necessary for anything. I highly suggest sandstone for the regular /warp trade, and quartz and horse eggs for /warp donor because they are very usefull. I mean, for the horse eggs, there is horse armor available at /warp donor. it is completely useless without horse eggs. Water blocks, portal frames, fire blocks, etc. are just for decoration and while I don't think they should be worth a stack of diamonds, I also don't think that they should be put in villager trades.
     
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    I also think that nether stars would be a nice addition, but players would probably get mad about that if they were put in.
     
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    if they were not put in the original villagers they will not be put in at all. No rares in villagers
     
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    What she said. It's meant to be rare and very difficult to obtain.
    Putting more of these into the economy will just make nothing rare and will also anger all of the old high donors who saved up and bought rares.
    Rich would get richer and have tons of spurce blocks
     
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    People have to be careful what they trade and who with. If its too good to be true it usually is. Rare items are meant to be hard to get not easier to get. Imagine a rich donor could buy 3 source blocks at one time with enough left for some other rares. The rich will get richer not poorer. And if the trades only occur at warp donor then the true poor, most non donors wont get a chance. So in reality nothing will come good out of rares in villagers. Maybe horse eggs, but nothing else.
     
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    You seem to refer numerous times about source blocks and high end rares of sorts. I'm talking about lower tier rares such as beacons, netherstars, horse eggs and quartz. Having these to be sold at warp donor at a reasonable price is only beneficial. It's blatantly obvious that having source blocks and end portal frames to be sold at a regulated donor shop is a stupid idea. Another thing to note Krissy, is where you said "The rich will get richer not poorer" that is not entirely true. A method to combat this to inflate the prices of these rares to an insurmountably large cost to reduce the influx of new rares from rapidly entering the economy and decimating everything. Remember that all i'm talking about is low end rares = high prices. Also this should probably be implemented into warp grass instead of warp donor.
     
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    Nice vocabulary Portgas. :)
     
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    Why thank you :) im only 14 as well.
     
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    Even the low end rares should not be in villagers. They also are meant to be hard to get, like their higher end rare brothers. It isnt beneficial in anyway to have them as a renewable source. Just think how many beacons someone can obtain if they actually have the diamonds to do so? Then what about rares trading? not many people trade things they can get at a shop unless they dont have the grass so they have to offer say iron.
    So now we raise the prices of every rare to the point where no one but the very richest can afford them, and the very richest still have rares on them, that means they remain rich, thats not even fair. There is not other way to put this so i will say it quite boldly until an admin corrects me but
    The will NEVER be rares coming to WARP DONOR or ANY villager. There is NO economy, just a system of trades and random prices we made up and the powerful had a hand in. So enough acting like there is an economy where we have to inflate/raise costs, and make new rules and new prices to suit situations and what ever. If you want rares, trade them like most people have done in the past.
     
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