Hello, I would like to suggest a change to the chat rules. I love hosting events on my island, where players can compete for decent rewards, however, i found that the 10 minute advertising rule does not work well with game hosting in general.

Advertising rule is imposed to reduce players promoting means for people giving them money.

Hosting events usually have the opposite goals. Player hosting is trying to give his money to the participants.

Also, due to the heavily AFK nature of the server, there aren't that many active concurrent players, and the ones who are, come and go generally rapidly, missing out on the event taking place. From my own testing, on average, a new player joins an event every 1-2 minutes, until saturation is reached.

Therefore for a healthy event hosting opportunity i would like to see chat announcement frequency revised to standard spam rules, not advertising rules.
Also limit event hosting per player (not account) to one event a hour after finishing the previous event, to limit oversaturation of events.

 

I support this, provided it comes alongside specific rules for what does and does not constitute an "event," as well as specific rules for event advertising including firm timescales. Violating any of these should carry the same punishments as normal spam rules.

For example, say you were running a big maze event on your island on Saturday at 5pm. Standard advertising rules (1 per 10 minutes) should apply up to perhaps 90 minutes before the event. 90 minutes before, it can go to 1 advertisement per 5 minutes. 20 minutes before the event, perhaps 1 advertisement per 2 minutes? Once the event is underway and no more participants are sought, the advertising goes back to the usual 1 per 10 minutes.

Strict guidelines would need to be set out for what is and isn't an "event" to stop people throwing daily "events" at their shop/casino/afk chamber in order to subvert the spam rules. That would be something staff would have to work out, i guess?

Generally in support of this as a general concept, not sure how it would actually work in practise, and I guarantee this will cause extra work for staff as people will definitely see it as a loophole to abuse.

 

I'd define an event as any player or staff hosted activity for rewards defined by the player or staff. A casino style event would only qualify if the entire funds for the event were supplied by the host, for example, any bets. Any promises and withdrawals of prizes would be severely punished. I agree with standard advertising rules up to around 2 hours before the event, and only high frequency announces within 10-20 minutes of the event, which would be the logical standard method for hosting.

I also see that staff involvement might be more frequently sought, however, i think standard reporting system should be able to retrospectively deal with rule breakers, just like it currently deals with ads.

People generally are unaware that event announcements currently fall under advertising rules, but not many players try to host events anyway, so i don't think the ammendment will increase hosting by an usnusual amount.

I think generally increasing events happening would help people break some of the monotony and perhaps join the game more often instead of just leaving their characters perpetually AFK, without anyhow punishing those who choose to just AFK.

 

im going to be hosting a 10% off sale event on all my shops and my casino all year!! and if you walk through all the shops and casinos you have a skin competition that uses ✨ ai ✨ (artificial integers, a number generator) to judge the skins without human intervention.

(please ignore the 10% markup i put on everything last month that is unrelated)

 

you didn't read what i said above =) Neither did you vote on the poll. Also currently players willing to host an event more often than not, do not know about the advertising rule impacting events (it really shouldn't). Not like we have anyone trying to host fishy events either.

 

i didn't vote in the poll because it's just reactions v2

 

Trash reply that tries to discredit what Mr. Iaacis2 wants (Shoutout ppl who can read XD) should probably delete the reply and use ur thinking cap to rephrase it as a "OMG what if evil awful ppl do something like this?" to which case you'd already have Mr. Iaacis2's opinion on the matter (Shout ppl who can read XD) but at least u'd be trying to contribute

Bro read the suggestion's title and contents! Even if you read the title I think it's pretty obvious he doesn't want the advertisement rule destroyed, he just wants to be able to advertise his events more than once every ten minutes ! ALSO

Iaacis2 I support your thread dawg, I hope so many little noobs go to ur events

 

Neutral because I don't mind most of this BUT this clause is not needed at all as we do not have that many events.

 

Honestly I don't think no staff will warn or mute u / anyone will be bothered if you're hosting a giveaway event since that isn't considered advertisement. I've spam "advertised" myself and other people events(not just giveaways, big shows like emy's firework shows on holidays too) all the time with multiple staffs online and they never came to pinch my ears. Obviously we're talking about a considerable amount( at least a grass stack giveaway) otherwise you're wasting people's time and it's when people will get mad. Also don't spam like crazy, a message per minute should be more than enough! I find changing the rules to be an unnecessary change for something like this...

Edit: Oop I just noticed this is economy, but I think it works same way in both servers lol

 

I'm a huge eco player and lover of event hosting, but i've seen some friction and when clarifying with staff over event hosting, they adamantly stated the 10 minute limit. So if I were to host an event again, for example, find me on my island for 10k (specially geared to new players), i would likely be breaking rules and potentially get muted because I've previously asked about the frequency.

Some of my maze events can also get quite tricky and long, my record for maze event duration was 2 hours.

 

I am sorry for confusion caused, i do not wish modifying the advertisement rules, I wish to decouple event hosting from advertising so advertising rules no longer impact hosting of events.

Furthermore I would like to either bring in a new event hosting rule fitting the parameters discussed above (one per player, not account), per specified time period, say, week. When announcing an event, one per 10 minutes (same as advertising) until around 1-2 hours prior to event, then reduce that to one per 5 minutes up to 10 minutes prior to event, and one per minute for assembly of players, and basic spam rules for event taking place.

or alternatively simply apply spam rules to an event hosting from 10 minutes prior to event start to an end of event.

My definition of an event:

Event is a player hosted activity based on event rules, hosted purely for enjoyment of other players, is not to be used as fundraiser or advertisement of paid services or gambling.

 

This seems to be causing some confusion so I want to be clear, this is already the rule. It's already per player, not per account, not per island. One ad, per 10 minutes, per human player, regardless of which account used or island advertised. One per 10.

 

The spam rule explicitly states players must limit the frequency in which they advertise their 'island'.

It could be argued that advertising 'events' does not break this rule.

 

the event would usually be on one's own island, unless of course you're advertising someone else's island

 

Yes but if you’re advertising an event and not your island then those two things are already de-coupled.
The current rule was really implemented to limit automated advertisements which likely won’t be the case if a player is actively hosting an event.

Hosting requires a host and their active participation in the role of hosting.

 

They aren't. Laacis has in the past asked staff about advertising events on his island and was told 1 per 10 minutes. Because at the end of the day, he's still advertising for people to come to his island.

 

I can see why a staff member might think that if they hadn't considered the fact that the change to the chat rules to restrict advertising of islands stemmed from the rule change in this post, which as the title states, was put in place to limit Auto-advertising.

Rules on Auto Advertising | Skyblock Official Site

This rule wasn't brought in to prevent the announcing of events manually.
I doubt the intent of this rule was to restrict player interaction.

 

I clarified with staff member that the 10 minute ad rule does in deed include events, and have been told off in past for announcing an event more than once in 10 minutes. Even when using a custom new message every time to not look repetitive, to add additional information like event rules.

I'd like this to be confirmed for future so I can host with confidence and not end up in negative interactions while trying to focus on the actual job of hosting without all the beneficial perks, at least if not changing the rule to separate event hosting rules from ad spam.