Off topic thread: staff reports, who deals with them and how

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  1. Sourss
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    Oh please, do post what incredibly offensive things I said. I'm tempted to post our conversation myself but as it is your ticket I figured you might take issue with that.

    I also give you full permission to share our dms - not that you asked for that before when sharing them. :blush:
     
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    nor did i at first , being honest, but it what it is.

    i see what you say, but what i mean, is i dont need to prove in this thread to players, what ive already posted to my staff report. thats for my report to be dealt with. having already submitted my proofs there.

    again you put words in my mouth that i havent said,. in fact, my last player report after i got frauded out of my elytyra, i speficically stated in that report i just wanted the trade deal, undone. with no punishm,ents, please dont accuse me of saying things that i havent.

    oh for sure, i do get a lot of good interactions too, im sure any of my friends can vouch for me there., ive always been helpful to players in game all the time when im on, i go out my way most of the time. but that has natrually created the wrong attention from those that dont like me, theyre fine to not like me. but thats my point. people see me do good, and make me a target to cause intentional upset. granted that hasnt happened as frequently since last summer.,


    so again, stop creating words i havent said. it comes across as very judgmental from someone that doesnt interact with me much in game, other to ask how i am occasionally.

    for sure think what you want of me at this point, i dont need to prove myself to you or anyone doubting my worth.

    so, knowing that im stressed enough as it is, you intentionally state something thats fasle, knowing itll come across as bullying behaviour, you made those comments, because i unfriended you, and you wanted to express your temper tantrum about it, its okay. when you want to show compassion, lmk and ill add you back again as a friend.

    and again, pinning all the blames on me for what ?/ simply wanting staff to treat me with the same respect they expect back from me ? /





    Sours, seeing as you wish to adress it here and not through my staff report

    your first interaction with me , in a ticket claiming i just got scammed, is to take a screenshot of a comment i made on discord, where i said to the lines of this following sentence.
    " i gave away two totems on economy today, and an elytra to some greenie."

    you showed me that screenshot in the ticket as your first message, and called my ticket report absurd, and you claimed, that i gave away entirely free, and you denied that i hade a trade offer.

    i can say in discord before bed that if i wanted a little motivation boost from my friends, but it doesnt neccercarily mean its true word for word,

    i sold both tortems, very cheap. not free as you sate. i had a sale agreement for my elytra, fwith conditions to that sale, which the buyer for was dishonest to me, and fradued me. but becuase that doesnt neatly fall into your black and white ruling of a scam, you denied me any support, when i simply wanted to reverse the trade after realiseing i got scammed.

    you then started argueming with me in genral chat, and timed me out when i asked you to stop pls.

    thats why i dmed you to say ur imature, and you accuse me of lieing, of slandering every day, of bnelittling every day, making wild accusations.

    i then asked what i lie about and you couldnt tell me. instead carrying on with your "you lie and belittle staff every day " comment.

    i then got a ban from the discord after you blocked me. you still have me blocked, so please dont tell me you didnt block me after accusing me of slandering and lieing every day .


    well if this is true,. i am honestly disgraced by your behaviour as a new staff member. i wouldnt want asnyone to be treated they way you treated me.




    1- that would fall under doxing, another rule potential rule breaking by you. but where, id requested staff to leave me alone with my conversation with players, you did infact start on me with intent to further provoke me into a reaction, else you could have left me alone.
    2-i dmed you, after you asked me to drop it, and i asked you to do the same,. and you then timed me out.
    following this dm, you sent off your accusations, calling me a lair etc, and blocked me, after that i had my discord ban.
    3- you have me blocked still, dont lie.
    4- frez has updated that he issued the actual ban yes, howevre im still not sure that it wasnt you that timed me out, either way. i had FOUR members of staff take sides against me within my ticket, two of which, yourself and another, acted in ways that have caused me upset, and you should acknowladge this and reasure me that youll try not to upset me again through neglect of care.

    deeming a ticket invalid within minutes of it being opened for resolution support, is verty poor staffiing.

    im not trying to argue with you sours, but you do need to be made aware about what you have done thats upset me and caused this harm.


    well then, with this new founded level of repspect, can we go back to the actual staff report about yourself,. and work on a way to move forwarsd? actually show me youn want to support me,. thats what you signed up for as staff, to show us players support.

    if youre repsectful towards me, ill be back likewise.
     
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    Nope, you started talking about your ticket in general chat and then segued into complaining about staff not supporting you which I pointed out was an unnecessary comment after I and others had just spent hours talking to you in your ticket. Again, just because it was not the outcome YOU wanted doesn't mean it was incorrect or that I abused my powers as staff.

    1. In no way is posting the general chat on discord doxing. Please google the definition of this word because I keep seeing you use it incorrectly. I was not trying to provoke you, I was trying to keep you from starting an argument in general chat. You were unnecessarily rude as others also pointed out.

    2. I never timed you out. The fact that you don't trust me when I say this is a separate issue. All of our punishments are logged and you can ask anyone else to look up what punishment you were given if you don't trust me to tell the truth.

    3. Discord_tiFbXD3imU.png

    4. See reply 2.

    My 'job' is not to blindly support you and agree with you even when you lie and misrepresent how something happened.

    I again, implore you to look at your own actions that lead to this outcome.
     

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    Uhhh not gonna lie and say I read all the yap on this thread :joy::rofl2:, but I think if anything this thread proves some major things.

    First, and this has been controversial, I think staff reports should be public to view like ban appeals are. The main reasons they aren't and both staff and players have said they shouldn't is to protect the staff members reported and players that report them. Considering the amount of staff that can view the staff reports, and the fact that you have to reach out to the person you are reporting, this is just some bs, the player had no privacy on the matter to begin with, the way they are setup right now is in 100% favor of the staff, that's it. As for the staff protection part, if they are innocent and the report is bogus I assume the player that reported them will tell everyone anyways, surely it'd be better for the reported staff member to have the report public as a way to literally prove the accusations false... The only way I see staff members being negatively affected by a false staff report is if that report was valid?

    Second, I just want to point out some of the posts Novembree has made because I find them confusing ASF!
    This entire section of Novembree's second response to this thread is somewhat valid, but it also comes off as a major attack on CraftWithAbbie's character which I don't really think is a good thing to have on a thread like this.

    This is also wild to me, you just disclosed so much about the report and then said "I will not go into more details on your report here" LMAO this goes back to my second point, make the reports public or keep them fully private, don't do this crap... Also obviously I can't see the reports to know what you replied there, but I'm like 99% certain you didn't put this much effort into replying to the staff report, why do it now?

    lil bro reasons 1, 2, and 3 are reasons why a staff report should be denied/closed/resolved, not reasons why they should be ignored for the rest of eternity till everyone dies and forgets about them.
    (I didn't read the rest of the yap, but I'm sure I'd be SUPER ANGRY about some more stuff and I'd prolly CRASH OUT if I read it all)

    Third, I think this thread is proof that skyblock has some major issues :blobdetective::triumph: why the heck do staff reports get ignored???!?!?! This is so flipping concerning, I get that the staff team is like a giant homie friendship group, but sometimes your homies do wrong things and instead of ignoring that you should probably make ur homie apologize. But I'm probably crazy saying that because clearly ignoring them has no downside to y'all.
     
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    I was talking to players, about the in game trade. Asking if they agreed or not to the scam. I was also clear in that I didn't want to have staff involvement with the conversation, and that I was trying to keep the ticket itself out of it.
    Your involvement was provocative and not needed. I asked you to leave me alone and you wouldn't. If spending hours helping me is your definition for denial of any support. Accusing me for lieing when I didnt within the report, And mocking me for my kindness instead counts, then sure ig.

    With respect, that is exactly what you were doing. You may not deem your actions as provocative but they most certainly came across that way especially when your making accusations about me within the chat.

    Why should I trust you when you've just gone about every effort to mock my ticket and deny me any support? Why should I trust a word you say after you started on me like that?

    Trust is earnt.

    Take mlgeo, I trust them more became they've proven to be supportful and trustworthy.

    Then there comes you who claims I lie an slander and belittle all the staff every day without fail. And when I asked you what I lie about you removed my ability to comment. Followed by the dc ban

    If this is possible please. I'd love to see the official reasons and who by.

    No but your job is to be polite, show support where able to, and have an attitude that brings No harm or hurt to us players.

    If you have brought upset , then you should be responsible for apologising and improving your own behaviour for it.

    Staff applicants get denied over how they interact with the community. Accepted staff should act no differently.
     
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    While I absolutely agree with the premise that staff should be open and able to be reported and the cases handled with care and impartiality, this thread has unfortunately moulded into personal attacks and blinding immaturity.

    I believe that the majority of staff are good people who are willing to give up their time and help when needed, but these personal jabs at specific staff on a public thread does no good and definitely doesn't help fast-track your supposedly legitimate reports.

    Publicly ranting and attacking staff who are helping to keep the server afloat at no cost to the owner is not appropriate and has unfortunately given me a rather sour outlook on a discussion that is actually worthwhile having respectfully and truthfully.
     
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    As do I. I have nothing bad to say about a few of the staff because they're kind, take time to show support and have provided help if possible or given me advice if not.
    There are unfortunately just a few staff that have held personal optinions against me which is out of my hand.. And make it shown in how they act towards me within the tickets they've responded to.. Staff are fully welcome to dislike me, but still act with kindess and show content within tickets.

    I once wanted to be part of their team too. I love the skyblock server, and have stayed to enjoy meeting new friends who have become new staff too. In game when a player asks for help that requires staff, I usually help guide them in how to contact them or who to ask for help.

    So beleave me when I say I don't enjoy submitting a report. Unfortunately lack of conflict resolution has led to this. Its always with the instant punishments, mutes, bans, issued towards me for complainhing about the mistreatment, etc, rather than acknowledgement over possible mistreatment from certain staff and what they'll do for safeguarding in the future. Preventing further mistreatment through staffs lack of care.

    Staff who help keep the server afloat, wouldnt go out their way to deny their support to particular players they choose to dislike. I agree that the staff do an incredible amount towards looking after the server but sometimes they can slip up with how they interact with the community. Past staff have been let go before because they've failed to interact with the community in a safe or correct manner. There's no reason why current and new staff can't imrove on that so it doesnt happen in future. If it's brought to attention that the actions of particular members are bringing harm or hurt to another, Be them staff or player, something should be done to reasure both parties.
     
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    I saw this word getting misused a few times, so Imma add the definition to it in case some dont know.

    "Doxing (or doxxing) is the malicious act of publicly revealing someone's private or personally identifiable information online without their consent. This information can include, without limitation, someone’s private email address, phone number, home address, family address, financial details or sensitive documents." - University of Maryland
     
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    And staff posting private staff dms from a player to a staff regarding an open ticket into a public thread would also fall under that. Otherwise good to know.
     
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    Posting DMs in public isn't considered doxing. Unless the DMs contain something that can identify the person in real life, it's not considered doxing. Consent is also important when it comes to stuff like this, which you have been given consent to post some of the DMs with one of the four staff members you reported.
     
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    The literal irony here. o_O

    But posting private player to staff dms is fine.

    Especially if they include information that could put the player in a position of vulnerbility? I mean not like staff to be sharing private information regarding signed contracts (no interaction or communication agreement) to everyone here then.

    But again thanks for the information,
     
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    The screenshots provided by myself and bree hold no personal information that could be linked to your irl person or any other sensible information regarding your person, so its not doxxing.

    You have claimed a few times that we would refuse to look at evidence provided by you and brought up these 50 screenshots that we, in your words, refused to look at. That claim is simply not true, prooven by the screenshots. You made that claim already in 2024 and I told you back then that its the way you provided the evidence and how to provide it the propper way. So not the evidence itself, yet you still tryed to claim that this was the case. Therefor we used these to provide evidence against your claim.
    If evidence in a ticket is provided the propper way, we never refuse to look at it.
     
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    While it might not be my place to talk since the topic changed completely, I feel that staff reports should remain hidden regardless of what has been talked about. Maybe it would bring more transparency, but there's simply too many problems that could arise for indicted people and other uncomfortable situations, and the last thing I would want in here is people feeling bad over a minecraft server, the place where we're coming to distract ourselves.
    Of course everything can't be giddy and we need some seriousness in everything, and that's where we must trust staff is responsible to mediate in this regard. I'm completely ignorant on Abbie's past offenses, but considering the last incident, I felt it was so inoffensive that it could have easily been addressed, despite her small outburst that doesn't help anyone, isn't that right Abbie? Instead, we're allowing this situation to escalate even more, and it surely isn't improving any look of professionalism of current staff simply just from replies I've seen in this thread, neither is it helping you abbie.

    Funny of you to suggest a perma ban, as that would be the most immature thing to do as a staff member in this situation! While I do agree that her rants are comparable to a 5 year old sometimes, I still feel they're justified as childish and pesky they might be. Strangely, Sourss refused to give me her side of the story, so I can only feel sceptical about abbie's whole recent situation, but there's simply nothing professional about ignoring staff reports, as apparently, this isn't the first thread on forums talking about it.
    Either way, I'm not here to condemn anyone, neither is that my job, and I can only hope everyone gets the dedicated attention and justice they deserve -_-
     
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    I sympathize heavily with you Craftwithabbie. there's actually another moderator whose been biased in handling player reports against players they are palls or at least on good terms with.
    Like, this is a bit off topic, but I still feel it is within the same vein when I wonder: if someone else were to have handled that ticket there, would they have followed through with what the server rules suggest the punishment for whichever offence should be?
    additionally, this mod in particular did something to a pal of mine, and when that player made a ticket to have it removed, the same mod ignored the ticket in a way where somehow other mods have not been able to get to it either. maybe they closed it themselves. I still don't know if my pal has gotten their thing changed back.
    I appreciate you for pushing up against this for all of us who also have seen some stereotypical corruption going on.
     
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    No way Abbie is clutching 1v5. Expose their favouritism. Certain staff are getting very exhausting and repetitive. Owner needs to look at this. Like glad i am not the only that has issues with some certain staff. Literally half of the player base does now.

    Its not professionalism to say something like this with irony on a post regarding that there is a problem with the staff.
    Ive seen better and mature responses that could solve the issues. "☺️ Ooo please post what i said!" Bro what am i seeing. Noobcrew Take a look at this mess man you allowed and get your server fixed. Its a cringe and childish response from a staff
     
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    I mean, say what you will about the staff team of this server, but this was caustic at worst, and pretty obviously just a bit of snark when dealing with an individual that they've supposedly been continuously dealing with for a while and are getting fed up of dancing around.
     
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    Not an excuse. People trusted X member to become a moderator for how helpful, reasonable and communicative they will be. If they are fed up and cant handle issues. Its time to leave. Thats not professionalism behaviour to respond. I can judge. I am just a player that hasnt been on the wrong yet. And i see another player Abbie that had the courage to make this post regarding staff problems. Just because many of you are besties with some certain staff you are blindfolded by the statements said here. I suggest looking at both sides like i do cause i know how staff works and ive seen stuff.
    Noobcrew your playerbase is suffering.
     
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    I can assure you that I am not "besties" with any staff members here—quite the contrary. Typically, I would agree with what is being said (and as the conversation pertains to the topic of staff reports, I still do). However, in this particular situation, based on what has, in my opinion, been wrongly shared by the staff team regarding Abbie's situation, frustration is both permissible and warranted. I do believe that staff members should be held to a higher standard, but there is only so long that any person can be expected to cater to the whims of someone that dislikes them and shows flagrant disregard for the way the system is supposed to work.

    The Skyblock rules are to be followed with at least a modicum of common sense and enforced at the discretion of the staff team. Staff members are not at your beck and call, and their time is not yours to waste.
     
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    The unfortunate irony here. Because these are the exact issues I've been having to report.

    I totally get it if staff are fed up with me reporting their behaviour and actions towards me.

    Because I'm just as fed up with having to deal with their dislike and discrimination and neglect of care towards me as a player.

    And I'm tired of repeatedly raising the same issues over and over with what comes across as complete refusal on staffs side to improve on them. All I ever see is what am I doing to improve on myself as a player, But never acknowledgement from staff that they have caused possible hurt if intended or not, it just feels like they're in complete denial and are incapable of accepting anything other.
     
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    Don't call Noobcrew here, he is just gonna say "There are no problems with any part of skyblock staff" then shut down this thread and threaten to ban people
     
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